Whether we like it or not, he's the self-proclaimed governor of mid-Missouri, and he's the host of TTBS, the podcast. Since we can't shut him the hell up, here's Tom Bradley. You know, Nikki, I love your attitude, and I always have loved your attitude, and I appreciate that. Nikki Garman bringing us on this week's podcast. Boy, it's been a really, really busy morning already, and now I just got to get my mind set into what we're doing over here, as there's a lot to get into. We're live from Truman's Bar and Grill. They got something going on this weekend. It's more live music. These guys just don't stop. This stuff is live music. Let me see. Tomorrow night, on a Friday night, the Stoneshiners. What exactly, Ellis, is a Stoneshiner? I would assume they're geologically inclined. Do they have, like, the tumbler? Do you remember the little tumbler? No, no. I'm just kidding. My father used to say, son, what are you doing? Are you shining your stone again, boy? Oh, okay. I went literal. Don't you be shining that stone. I'm watching my shillelagh. So, listen. I don't know why I started off there, but the Stoneshiners are here tomorrow night at Truman's Bar and Grill. Today's guest on TTBS, the podcast. It's not the first time I've met and talked and went deep, went long on this particular person. I'm going to call him a friend of mine. Tegan Higgins is with us this morning,...
Whether we like it or not, he's the self-proclaimed governor of mid-Missouri, and he's the host of TTBS, the podcast. Since we can't shut him the hell up, here's Tom Bradley. You know, Nikki, I love your attitude, and I always have loved your attitude, and I appreciate that. Nikki Garman bringing us on this week's podcast. Boy, it's been a really, really busy morning already, and now I just got to get my mind set into what we're doing over here, as there's a lot to get into. We're live from Truman's Bar and Grill. They got something going on this weekend. It's more live music. These guys just don't stop. This stuff is live music. Let me see. Tomorrow night, on a Friday night, the Stoneshiners. What exactly, Ellis, is a Stoneshiner? I would assume they're geologically inclined. Do they have, like, the tumbler? Do you remember the little tumbler? No, no. I'm just kidding. My father used to say, son, what are you doing? Are you shining your stone again, boy? Oh, okay. I went literal. Don't you be shining that stone. I'm watching my shillelagh. So, listen. I don't know why I started off there, but the Stoneshiners are here tomorrow night at Truman's Bar and Grill. Today's guest on TTBS, the podcast. It's not the first time I've met and talked and went deep, went long on this particular person. I'm going to call him a friend of mine. Tegan Higgins is with us this morning, but we are going to go so much deeper. We're going to have such a discussion with Tegan, a young man who survived a horrible shooting in 2022, if I got that right, over there. Just outside of California, Missouri, down in Monatow County. If you're outside Missouri, it looks like Monatow. It's Monatow. Don't ever try to pronounce anything in Missouri on your own. Monatow County. And anything in Missouri, like Versailles, that's not how they say it anywhere else, right? No. Oxvossi? It's all weird. Nobody understands it. Tegan's story is really amazing. A story that sounds like tragedy, but it's about survival. It's about the human spirit, and I can't wait to talk to him here in a little bit. But over to my left, you know, you're not just a web guru. You know what you want? You guys in tech, you techie guys. Techie guys. Techie sorts. You came up with a title for what you do years ago. Webmaster. Now, that's how you know that people that got into programming computers were also playing Dungeons and Dragons. Only those types of people, right? Oh, man. You nailed that. Because guess what? I do play D&D. Oh, sorry. Sorry. D&D. Dungeons and Dragons, yeah. Do you know that I've never played it? I don't know. Never? I have no idea what the hell it is. It's amazing. It's a bunch of grown men with little bitty dice and little bitty figures saying, I cast magic missile. It's fantastic. Oh, boy. Someday I will tell you the story of Casey and the sword. Casey and the sword. Remind me. I've heard of Casey and the bat. I've never heard of Casey and the sword. No, no. Casey and the sword. It's a personal story from my life. But you got floatingaxe.com is your website. And the stuff that you do, by the way, Precision Construction's website, precisionmo.com, you're in charge of that. Yep. Doing a great job with it and making another change right now on there. Yep. So, thank you for that. You're just amazing at what you do. And I thank you. And everyone should look you up. At the end of the podcast, yes, we will get into keeping your eye on the crap. For some reason, I think the open for that segment has become somebody's favorite out there. They just love that thing. And I don't blame them. And keeping your eye on the crap brought to you by Family Focus Eye Care at famfocuseye.com. And you will enjoy this. I need some help from you. You are, you're like an ordained minister now, right? So I can't. Is it ordained? So the assemblies is weird because we have three different levels. Go to your own camera. So yeah. So the assemblies is weird because ordained is the highest level. So I'm credentialed. So in the in the like world, or yes, I'm a I'm a credentialed minister. But yeah. Okay. So ordained is like a special title in our in our group. So I don't use that one. So in Christian churches like yours, does it work the same way with the same terms that like D&D does? I'm level one. I'm level one. Does it have dragons? Yeah, I'm level one. Coordination as well. I need you to tell me. I need I need you to help me with this thing. All right. All right. All right. You're my spiritual guide. Oh, no. On this particular thing. You're in trouble. The Real Columbia, Missouri Facebook page posts pics and videos and comments and information on Columbia. And one of the things that's been focused on since its inception and how many followers do they have now? I think it's just past 20,000 or twenty eight, twenty eight thousand. It's thousands and thousands. Let me pull it up. It's a lot of it's on Columbia's homeless, the panhandlers, the beggars, which I'm not calling a panhandling anymore. I now call them beggars. Thirty thousand. Thirty thousand. Now. Holy cow. Did you happen to see the post this week? The week that was titled Bum Fights No, I missed this one. I'm looking at it right now, though. OK. All right. Let me just outside of a restaurant. Yeah. It's Bob Evans. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to say it because the Bob Evans sign is behind. I feel like Bob Evans is sponsoring the fights. These guys are on the median. It's at the it's at the the cluster fuck, as we've always called it at 63 and Stadium. And they're on the median and they're fighting it out. And it's not funny. And it's humanity. But I got to tell you something. I laughed and I laughed. And then I watched it a second time. By the time I got to watching it the third and fourth and twenty third time, I thought this is wrong. I should not. So my question to you, before I ask you the question, before I ask the question, Deb was watching it. We were talking about it, just having a great time. We were out in the front porch last night with our puppy dog and enjoying the evening and watching the bum fights. And she was going to post on it. And as I remember the old saying, beggars can't be bruisers. And she left and she posted my comment attributing it to me. Here's my question. As much as I enjoyed this, am I going to hell? And I want I want your honest. Oh, no, not for that. Absolutely. You know, I don't want to get in the whole religious studies here, but, you know, Jesus came to seek and to say that was lost. They want to save us. He wants to see us changed. But honestly, watching two guys duke it out is some kind of Jesus was here today. And he had a he had a phone and he was following the real Columbia. And this popped up. What do you what do you go? Just a little. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. I think he would also feel very sorrowful, just like we I mean, we feel bad for these guys. It's frustrating. But we just show them love. I feel I know God has a sense of humor. He made us. So there's no way he doesn't at least have a sense of humor. I love the way you look at I love the way you look at life. So thank you for that. So you think I'm going to be OK for a little while, for a little while that you don't think I will talk deeper about that. I'm going to be going to that place. It's time for the big announcement this week. Releasing the big announcement and the hounds brought to you by Creekside Pet Center, Bed and Biscuit and Dirty Harry's in Boonville. The last dog always sounds like it's in pain. The last dog was laughing because it was watching that bum fight. What was going on? Oh, man. I feel I feel like I'm having too much fun already today. Creekside Pet Center had their 10th birthday this past week in the Pettacular. Oh, there were so many people out there. Do you know that to park for the event, they had people on horseback? That's awesome. Come on. Yeah. And they were just directing traffic? Yeah. The horseback riders, they were directing traffic? Yeah. That's really cool. Oh, and it's the first time that little Daisy Jane, our pup, saw a horse. And the first horse she saw was like John Wayne's horse. And there's a dude up there like, don't bring your car over here now, sir. And we get up. And you should have seen Daisy. She takes a step. Oh, what the? I swear. She's like, I thought I was the biggest animal. It was hysterical. Thank you, Creekside Pet Center and Midmo Dog Boarding. You guys are absolutely fantastic. The big announcement this week is actually this came out yesterday. And if you didn't hear about it, don't worry. The people that were on their way to be guests on Jimmy Kimmel Live found out on the way to the studio, the theater, that it wasn't going to be no Jimmy Kimmel last night. Wow. ABC has pulled Jimmy Kimmel for the time being because of comments that Jimmy Kimmel made earlier this week about the assassination of Charlie Kirk. When we were talking last week at this time, we were talking about it had just happened the day before. And I went to look up what Jimmy Kimmel said and what's going on here. There's a couple of things. ABC pulling him off because of threats from the FCC. I'm very confused. The FCC is a pitiful agency of the federal government. And they have zero teeth left anymore. But now they're getting all threatening with this thing. And the reality is, there are some things you can't say through a facility licensed through the FCC, like a broadcast television station or network. However, freedom of speech still has a great bit of room in things like television, radio, through the internet, the newspaper. I'm really confused as to why they're getting all… I don't appreciate Jimmy Kimmel. I don't enjoy him. No, I've never watched him. It seems like a place where people should just be having fun and occasionally a political jab at somebody. But he's made it so much more than that. And if you like that, that's up to you. For me, it's not what I want. And Jimmy Kimmel's just never been my man. What he said earlier this week is just apparently he said something about… The MAGA gang. Yeah, he said, we hit some new lows over the weekend, this is on Monday night, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize the kid who murdered Charlie Cook as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. I'm not saying that I agree with Jimmy Kimmel. I think he's a horse's ass right here. I don't even know what he's talking about. He's trying to use what happened for a chance to throw some darts at his favorite dartboard, Donald Trump. And I get that whole thing. You have to understand where I sit in that I don't understand why they would pull the plug on the show. He's been doing crap like this for… This is nothing new for him. I don't know why the FCC is getting all up into his junk and business on this thing. Meanwhile, I don't think he appreciates exactly what happened last week. You want me to say something unpopular? You go right ahead. This is a little concerning. I hope nobody gets mad at me over this one. So I don't think he should have been canceled for that comment. I don't think he should have been pulled for that. Because here's the thing, the sword always cuts both ways, right? So if somebody… Free speech is supposed to be protecting something that is said that you don't agree with. Now, the people that have said these horrific things like, I'm so glad he was killed and stuff like that, of course, there should be some measure of responsibility for that. But when it comes to comments like this, that's relatively innocuous. He's making fun of the MAGA group just like he always has, right? And so if you cancel people just for saying stuff, then what happens when the other group is in power and they start doing the same thing to your people? I'm completely with you on that. The one thing we have to keep in mind is if you're saying something that can incite violence and you're doing that through an FCC regulated medium, that's something that may need their attention. I'm glad that he was shot and killed. Anybody can say that. You have the right to say that. If you go a little further, you might start having some other issues. And no, you're not going to run to a theater, as we've always said, and yell fire. That's not going to be allowed. All right, so we'll leave it at that. But the announcement being that Jimmy Kimmel has been pulled for the time being. He has not been canceled as of the time of this podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, I want to get into this week's podcast and our guest. And I'm just very, very happy that we've been able to do this. Although I feel like he was running from me a little bit, trying to get this whole thing scheduled up. Folks, it's Tegan Higgins, who's with us now. Good morning, Tegan. Good morning. Morning, morning. Thank you so much for being here. How did you feel about that running comment? Oh, it's… I'm used to them. That's always… It's always going to happen, isn't it? It's going to come out there. No, I was reaching out to you and trying to get this scheduled up, and we were just having trouble with the dates. Back and forth. But we did get it. You're here this morning. Finally. Thank you for being here. Absolutely. It's great to have you. Yes. It's been… I don't think it was about a year since you were on my radio show. Is that right? Eight to ten months. Eight to ten months. Yes. You're wearing your Game Day Men's Health… Absolutely. …hat and shirt. Got to represent. Yeah, man. You're doing a great job with that, too. But Game Day Men's Health is a clinic that opened last… When was your opening day? October. October. So it was right around that time you came on the show with us. Yeah. Yeah. You were on with one of your staffers, a nurse practitioner… Yep. …and also a member of the management and ownership team, your big sister. Big sister. Trinity. Yes. And how is she? She transitioned back to full-time real estate. Cool. So since then we've hired a new medical assistant. But yeah, all is well. She's doing great. That is awesome, man. Thriving. That is awesome. Your story, I said earlier, is one of perceived tragedy and yet survival. Do you think that's a little too serious or is that really what it is? I mean, yeah, that's really what it is. But in a sense, we all get curveballs thrown at us. We all have our own personal struggles and challenges. It's all about what you do to overcome those challenges. I want to throw this out there for anybody who's meeting you for the first time through the audio and video on this podcast and say, I think you are a very, very likable person and you handle yourself very well. You're a good-looking guy. You've got a tremendous family behind you. Why don't we get a movie made about you? I don't know about all that. Maybe one day. Remember we were talking about, off the podcast when we started, we were talking about humility? I lack humility. Let me take some of yours and let me give you my lack and you can start seeing how this can happen. It's an incredible story, but I really want to know more about it. A couple of years ago, it's now over three years ago. Yeah, so February will be the four-year mark. Coming up in February. It was in 2022. You were at, should I call it a house party? Yeah, yeah. Just a birthday party, house party. Outside of California, Missouri, you were in Monticello County. Yeah, Russellville. I believe Russellville. Russellville. Monticello County. And you were there with friends and were there, were there any, I'm going to say adults, even though you guys were of adult age, but were mom and dad there that day? No, no. Just mom and dad. So two of my buddies had, they were living in a rental house. So it was their house and it was just a big house party, a bunch of people there. You know, that was kind of the scene of the night. How big was the party? Oh, I mean, I would say the biggest it was, was probably 25 people, 20 to 25, maybe, maybe not quite that. And then, you know, throughout the night. It's not monstrous. Yeah, yeah. By no means, by no means. There had been no law enforcement called out because you guys were getting loud and causing trouble. No, it was pretty secluded. It wasn't in like a neighborhood or anything. It was out in the middle of nowhere pretty much. Were you in your first year of college at the time? Yeah, I was a freshman. Second semester. And you were a freshman where? At University of Central Missouri. You see them. Go Mules. Warrensburg. Warrensburg. Yeah. So you were, that's close enough, easy to travel back and forth, so you were there. And as something happened, some kind of an altercation started. Was it inside the house and were you outside the house? Yeah. So I was actually inside the house. And so, so I'll just kind of give you a rundown on that. So I was second semester, spring semester, my freshman year at University of Central Missouri. And one of my best friends all throughout high school, he didn't end up going off to college. He stayed back home and just working on stuff. So I wanted to go back, you know, for his birthday party, you know, be there for him. So I went back, made the drive. This was on Saturday. So I actually went to Columbia that Friday night, went out with my sister and then got up on Saturday, went back home. And then, you know, five, six o'clock rolled around. We headed over to his older brother's house. So Ethan's, whose birthday party it was, we went over to his older brother's house named Jordan. And that's where we were going to have his birthday party at. And, you know, we were all having a great time. It was just like any other night, you know, that we've had, you know, we've had hundreds of nights, just like the night we were having and, you know, playing bags, beer pong, you know, whatever, whatever we're doing, just hanging out, kicking, you know, cutting loose. And, you know, the night continued to, you know, move forward. And, you know, something, you know, started to feel off. You know, I could sense that there was tension and, you know, Ethan, whose birthday party we're at, you know, kind of started arguing with everyone, trying to pick fights. And, you know, I didn't really want anything to do with it. I didn't, you know, by this time it was 1.30, 2 in the morning, you know, it was getting late. I was like, I'm just going to, you know, head to bed. So I went, it was, I think, a two bedroom, two bath house, just all one level, just a slab house. So I went back to the back bedroom and just laid down. One of my other buddies was back there with me. We were just, you know, just not paying any attention to what was going on out in the living room. Talking, hanging out, you know, getting ready for bed. And I actually thought about leaving and heading home with one of my other friends that drove us there. And we were like, nah, you know, we should probably just stay. That'd probably be the best move. Yeah. So I went back to that back bedroom of the house and that's whenever, you know, the commotions kept getting louder and louder and louder. And then all of a sudden I hear Ethan's got a gun and I was like, wait, what? You know, I didn't, didn't really even process what was said and, you know, what was about to take place. And then I just, you know, it sounded like two pots banging together, just bang, bang, bang, bang. Well, you say pots banging together, like near your ear that loud or just off in the distance? So it was inside the house. So you have to imagine just like I was 20 yards away from, yeah, super loud, super loud. And I was like, oh my gosh, what is going on? So then that's kind of when I like stood up from the bed and that's when he entered into my bedroom, the bedroom that I was at holding the gun. And he pulled the gun up and pointed at my other, one of my best friends, Brayden. And I was like, oh my gosh, no way this is, this is happening right now. So I took off, charged Ethan. And then he kind of transitioned to me, shot once, missed the first shot, shot again. And that bullet went into my arm and out of my elbow. By the way, we'll get to it later. I want to talk about the damage on your arm also. We'll get into that. At that point, are you guys grappling? So yeah, I didn't even realize I was shot in the arm. So then I grabbed him, pinned him up against the wall and was going for the gun. And then that's kind of when, I mean, it's, it's all definitely blurry, you know, between the, um, your brain kind of has a funny way of, you know, making you not remember things that you shouldn't remember, which is, you know, a good thing, but pin him up against the wall. And then that's when he kind of reached around and shot me and shot me square in the neck. The bullet traveled down through, um, collapsed my right lung, missed my heart by a millimeter and stuck my spinal cord like an ice cube going through the straw. So the bullet's still in my spinal cord. They never removed it. They left it there. I mean, did he shoot you in the back of the neck? Just right, right in the middle, in the middle, on the side, right in the middle, on the side. That's the scar right there? Point blank. Yeah. Yeah. It looks like a hickey almost. Yeah. But then I, I immediately collapsed. I mean, I didn't in the moment even realize it, but that's the bullet that paralyzed me ultimately from the chest down. Um, so it's like that it's bam. That's it. Yep. Immediate. Once that spinal cord severed. I mean, there's, you know, no, no fixing it, nothing. Were you unconscious by then? Did you, did you pass out? I, so I stayed awake through it all. I remember laying there, um, looking down, I was trying to like move my arms. I remember feeling my bones grind together in my arm. Oh God. And I was like, well, my arms definitely messed up. Um, and then, you know, I really wasn't ever in a crazy amount of pain at that house. Um, you know, adrenaline is a crazy thing. You're all wound up. Um, and then I, you know, started to feel like a throb in my neck and it almost felt like a, like pressure, like, like somebody holding like a warm towel over your neck is what I was feeling. I was like, oh my gosh, I must've been shot in the neck too. Oh yeah. So first you didn't even realize. Didn't even realize I was shot in the neck and I was like, wow, I'm, I'm hurt bad. You know, I don't, I don't really know what to do. Everybody's running around at this point, you know, just, so it just utter chaos. And when you collapse on the floor, what happened to Ethan? So then that was actually the last bullet in the clip was the bullet that paralyzed me. So then he said, well, this is coming from my friend that was still in the room. He just said, well, I guess I'm out of bullets. Set the gun down, walked out of the house, got in his car, and that's the last time I ever seen him. So anyone, anyone he had threatened, anyone he scared, anyone he took a shot at, anyone he injured and anything else worse than that already had happened by then. Yes. Correct. And that was. So he actually, the shots that I was hearing to begin with out in the living room was him shooting and killing his older brother, which was. His older brother. Which was also, you know, one of my best friends. I'm going to ask at this time, because I can't tell you how many new stories I went through and I'm trying to remember what would be in the AP style book, the guidebook that would tell you, don't mention those who were deceased that were shot by somebody. Just keep talking about the person who did the shooting. And I'm like, I don't understand it. I could not find his name in like 20 stories this morning from 2022. Ethan's brother is his last name, but was his last name Bondurant also? What was his first name? Jordan. Jordan. Yes. Great, great friend of yours. Was he dead already by the time you took those bullets? Yeah. No, he died pretty well immediately. I mean, it was a matter of seconds. Oh, my gosh. Good. How old was Ethan at the time that he did this killing and this mutilation? That would have been. Was he like 18, 19? That would have been his 19th birthday. So we were 18 freshman year, call it 18. Did you find out what precipitated all of this? No. I mean, there's there's nothing that came about it. I mean, he just, you know, I haven't really talked. I haven't talked to him since, you know, obviously you go through the court hearings and everything and you know, it's not there's no I don't think there ever will be an answer to make it make sense. I want to go back to him in a few moments as well. So you are awake this whole time, you're aware you're talking to people and any beer you had that night. You're also now feeling very sober. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it it almost felt like a dream. Didn't even really process what would have what had happened, you know, I was just kind of laying there and I to be completely honest, I thought I was dying from my right lung being collapsed. Every breath was getting harder. So my lung was just filling with blood and I was like, wow, like I'm, I'm done. Did you know that's what was happening to your lung? I mean, I just knew I'd been shot. I knew it wasn't good. And then, you know, I don't think anybody knows what it feels like to die because we're all still alive. But whenever you're just sitting there and you know, you've been shot, you know, multiple times and you're breathing and it's like, oh my gosh, like it's getting harder to breathe. You say whenever that happens. So far, that hasn't happened to me. No, it's not like I can really understand what that's like, but that's also then you're it's hard to breathe and hard to breathe. Would you say that? Did you have a feeling like you were drowning? How do you describe that? You can't breathe. You just don't even know. It's, you know, I could still breathe. It was just like every breath was getting harder and like I couldn't breathe all the way in and blow it all the way out. You know, I didn't know what was, you know, what was about to happen. Your friends were there, the ones who were still OK and helping you. So a lot of people, whenever, you know, there's probably 10 people left there whenever it began. And, you know, obviously everyone that could run away pretty well ran away. The person that was in the room with me when it happened was still there. He was talking to 9-1-1 by my side, keeping me alive, locking up the house, you know, just list, you know, taking the orders that 9-1-1 was telling him. How close of a friend was he before that night? Oh, we were, I mean, we were all super, super close. Very close. Very close. I had, you know, six or seven best friends, you know, throughout high school. And, you know, we've all remained very close and he was, he was definitely one of them. So, you know, he was on the phone with 9-1-1, you know, keeping me alive, applying pressure to my neck, which I then told him to stop because it, that's whenever the pain starts then. I was like, quit pushing on my neck, dude. This does not feel good. I'm trying to keep you alive. Yeah. So then I, I just started, you know, started to pray and I was like, you know, I never imagined that this would be how I would go out and that this was how I was about to go out. You know, so I just, I definitely prayed harder than I've ever prayed in my entire life. You have a tremendous family and we'll talk about that, but were you raised in a, in a prayerful household? Yes. Yes. Very much so. I mean, you know, pray before dinner, pray before bed. I mean, we're definitely a God-centered family. And you never thought you'd need to, but pray when you're shot also. Exactly. Exactly. And then that's kind of whenever I felt like a sense of peace kind of come over me and I was like, you know, if this is, if this is my time, then this is my time. Do you know if your friend who was there holding the pressure on your neck and talking to 911, do you know what his, can you, do you remember or did you notice what his feeling was? Was he, was he terrified? Was he crying? Was he? Yeah. I mean, um, he was definitely terrified. It was just kind of survival mode, you know, most that's everyone that was still there was just in survival mode. I mean, there was me laying there dying, um, you know, Jordan who had been shot. Did you know Jordan was dead already? I did not. I mean, I heard, you know, like, like I said, I, I really, you know, the whole night, the whole, the whole scene of events, it's, it's pretty blurry. Um, you know, I remember. Was anybody else shot? It was just Jordan and you and, and his girlfriend, his girlfriend was fine. She really didn't have any, um, you know, severe injuries. But he shot her too? Yeah. Jordan's girlfriend or Ethan's girlfriend? Ethan's girlfriend. He shot his girlfriend. Uh huh. Shot his girlfriend. That sounds like he just had a mental snap. But like, it was like, he was normal. Like he was my best friend, you know, all the way through high school, um, through college talk every day. When he, when he came in that room, you said he was, he was, was he looking to shoot your other friend first? You know, I don't, that's what, he pulled the gun up on my other friend and was pointed at him. I don't remember. I charged. Went at him. It was fight or flight. I mean it. I know you're, I know you're going to be humble about this, but you definitely saved that guy's life. Yeah. I mean, I know you're going to be humble about it. He's not going to take, but you saved that guy's life. People say I would take a bullet for my friend. It's like you did. He literally did. A couple of them. He literally did. He owes you a couple of bullets is what I'm saying at this time. It's, it's when I, when we talked about the story, you were at the hospital and I was on the air that morning or I guess it was, was that a Saturday night? So Monday morning we're talking about it. You're going through all kinds of hell in the hospital and I'm, look, when a story like that comes out of Montauk County, all right, Jeff City, Russellville, here in Columbia, we're going to talk about something that big. And we were talking about it and I couldn't help but think about while I was, while sharing the story with everyone on the air, what it must be like for you and the family because I had already known your dad for a few years, had been helping to promote his real estate business in the Jeff City and Columbia area and, and, and I'm like, wait a second, what is it? This is one of his kids got shot and I swear to God, I probably off the air, I probably said it to one of the co-hosts. I probably said, I wouldn't think that family was into this kind of stuff. I think I really said that because that's where my mind went. But you weren't hanging around people that were hoodlums and gangland activity. Not at all. Just, I mean, just a 19th birthday party that the dude just went crazy and he went off the edge completely when the, when the ambulance arrived, I don't know what we're doing on time because I can talk to you for like two hours when the ambulance arrived and it was the, the medics first got there, you know, like the first responders and they ran into the house and obviously are looking at a scene that they've never seen. You know, they didn't, they didn't know where to begin, what to say, what to do. And they ran up to me, you know, started trying to ask me questions and I, I didn't know the answers to the questions. You know, I was like, I just, I need to get out of here. Was this an officer, like a sheriff, was this an EMT? Like EMT style. Okay. And then it was like two guys that ran in first and then behind them, then the cops started showing up and then the ambulance got there. So then they loaded me on a stretcher, put me in the back of the ambulance and you know, that's whenever it really starts to get blurry. I think that's kind of when I start, you know, going in and out of consciousness. They probably started giving you some decent drugs at that point. Yeah. So I don't know if they started at that point with the drugs, but then they just drove like five minutes down the road, took me out of the ambulance and loaded me on to a lifelight helicopter. Were you conscious at that time? Cause you said you were paralyzed at that time. So were you conscious of the fact that they had to pick you up and you couldn't feel your legs or anything? So like, I don't even really remember, you know, I definitely couldn't feel, but I don't remember what I didn't realize throughout all this that I was paralyzed. And did you, did you realize you were being taken from the ambulance to the helicopter? I don't remember coming off the ambulance. The last thing I remember is feeling the air from the helicopter. And then I was like, well, I guess, you know, in that moment I was like, well, maybe, maybe I'm not dying. Maybe, you know, I am going to make it through this. And then just oxygen mask came over my face and that's the last thing I remember. And that's it? That's it. God. And then, I mean, the next two weeks are super blurry. I mean, they have you so doped up on, on pain meds and, you know, morphine drip. I went through a surgery on my left arm day two. They decided to not do surgery on my back. So they just had me, you know, all braced up. Did they have to do surgery to get to your lung to do anything there? So they, it's called a, oh gosh, what's it called? Like a chest tube. I had two different chest tubes, one in the back, one in the side that just basically is a tube that goes through the bone, through your ribs. Like a straw, right? Yeah, like a thick straw. And then they drain the fluid and then reinflate you. Pretty well. Oh, wow. I've watched Grey's Anatomy. I'm very aware. You watched it well. So, I mean, I was, you know, for the next two weeks in pretty rough shape. You know, my eardrum got blown out on my right side from, you know, how close the gun went off to my ear. From the sound. From the sound. I had, you know, I think four or five broken ribs from the bullet going into my spine. I had nerve damage, so your brachial plexus is on both sides of your neck, and that's where all the nerves start that run down your hands and arms, and that's how you move. That's how you feel. That's how you do everything. So where the bullet went in, it went straight through my brachial plexus, so my entire right arm was also paralyzed. Left arm was shot. Left arm was shot. Right arm was paralyzed. Right arm was paralyzed. And then as those nerves kind of come back to life and rebuild, it's super, super painful. I mean, it just felt like, you know, like needles and on fire. You go from fire to cold, and it was just, it was torture, and there's nothing you can really do about it. I mean, you know, there's medicine that helps with nerve pain, but, you know, it just slightly takes the edge off. Even the morphine and stuff like that, that doesn't stop the nerve pain? No, the nerve pain, you know, was still. Just keeps on going. Keeps on. That was probably the worst part of it all, was the nerve pain. This two weeks, first two weeks in the hospital, all, I mean, this is the trauma center, right? You said it was pretty much a blur. Was there ever a point where you were waking up and coherent enough that there was like one person in the room and you're like, what the hell's happening? So yeah, I remember like, it was either day one or day two, like waking up, and this was also peak COVID. So you have to think like I was, you know, not really surrounded by, you know, my entire family as I would be if COVID wasn't happening, you know? Oh Lord. So it was like, you know, one of my parents in the room at a time and, you know, obviously the doctor, you know, kind of came in, sat down and, you know, diagnosed me and told me, you know, what all my injuries were and, you know, kind of the game plan, you know? So that was a very tough pill to swallow, you know? Here you are, an 18-year-old freshman in college, living your best life, being told that you're never going to walk again, you know, ultimately thinking your life's over, you know? I mean, how do you come back from that? You know, I certainly didn't know how I was going to come back from that at the time. Tegan Higgins is with us this morning, and because we're live on a couple of formats out there, a couple of different websites, and we can't put in ahead of time what this broadcast is about, somebody asked me, would you please stop occasionally and remind us what we're doing? If you're catching this after the fact, you know that it's Tegan Higgins and everything going on. But I wanted to mention that and your father, Heath. If I describe your father, he's smart, he's energetic, he's driven, he's a believer on a lot of different levels. He's very successful, very youthful. Motivating. Motivating. And all those things. Did you, when you were coming around those first couple of weeks in the hospital, did you ever look over and see your dad and realize he was crying? No. No. No. Were you crying? I mean, yeah. Like, you know, to a certain point, you kind of, I feel like, run out of tears. You just kind of got to just accept what happened, you know, and just figure out what you're going to do now. You can dwell on the past or you can focus on the future. Do you remember the time when that mark came in the sand and you're like, that's it. From this point forward, I'm going forward. Yeah. Definitely. So, kind of after the doctor gave me a rundown on all my injuries, that's whenever my dad kind of sat down beside me and he was like, look, I'm never going to feel sorry for you and I don't want you to feel sorry for yourself. Like, I know we have a long road ahead, but, you know, I'm going to be there by your side and we're going to get through this. And that's basically, you know, exactly what we did. So, bittersweet for sure. That sounds callous, but that's really encouraging. That's what I needed to hear for sure. You know, too many times, we parents should be more callous and we've turned into wimps. And I don't know why. And I'm right there with everybody else and we need to be more like that. Hats off to your dad for giving it to you like that. When he said that, were you still here in Columbia? Yeah. So, I spent probably two weeks at the university, a week in the ICU, then a week in, you know, whatever the step down from ICU is. From there, transitioned to Rusk, which is also here in Columbia, Rusk Rehab Center. Spent about a week there and I was originally only supposed to spend two weeks at Rusk and then be released to go back home. And it didn't take long. You know, both my arms were still, you know, in rough shape. I couldn't use either of my arms. So, I knew I needed much more intensive care than what I was receiving at Rusk. Great place. It just, you know, wasn't for me, an 18-year-old new to being a paraplegic, you know. That was more so like where you'd go for like a hip transplant or something, you know. I just wasn't surrounded by the right group of people. So then, you know, that's when my mom did what moms do best. She got online and, you know, was, you know, taking feedback from, you know, the people that had gone through similar situations. And that's whenever she heard about Craig Rehab Center in Denver, Colorado. It's, I mean, it's well known, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, yeah. One of the best rehab centers in, you know, all of the United States, you know, all of the world for that matter. So luckily, got accepted to Craig. Got on. They got to make sure that you're banged up enough, but what's the deal on that? It's just the line so long, like, you know, there's so much. I mean, I think there's like 250,000 paraplegics living in the United States right now. So you have to imagine a place that only holds, I don't know how many people they hold, but a couple hundred probably. Say that number again. You said there's how many? Like 250,000 people. Does that number seem low or high to you? And it seems low to me. Yeah, that seemed low to me. I would have thought it would have been millions. That's interesting. That's the wrong way to enter the 1%. Yeah. You've entered a 1%. So got sent out to Craig, was there for, you know, I think like three months just learning how to live. You have to relearn everything. A lot of people, when they, you know, look at me, they just think that my legs don't work when there's so much more to living with a spinal cord injury. When the arms weren't working, what were you eating and how were you getting it into your stomach? So, I mean, there was a good point in time where like I'd have to, you know, somebody would feed me. I really didn't eat hardly at all for like that first two weeks. To put into perspective, I, you know, I was into lifting and everything in college. So when I got shot, I was weighing like 215 and then whenever I got to Craig, they weighed me and I was like 148. Holy cow. 148? 148. So in a matter of- You lost 70 something pounds? Yeah. In a matter of like two weeks. Holy cow. Wow. So, I mean, I was in rough shape. You probably wouldn't even recognize me if you've seen some of the pictures. You grew up as a jock. You were in sports. It was a baseball? Yeah. Well, I played everything. Baseball, football, basketball, golf. So I was about as active as I could be. Yeah. Loved sports. Loved lifting. So, you know, it was tough to see yourself, you know, going from 215 to 148. You know, I couldn't even hardly lift a fork up to my mouth. God. Jeez. I cannot believe. Yeah. I think what that must be like. Correlation to Columbia, at Craig in Denver, at that rehab facility, you were there at the same time that Daniel Santelli was there. Yes, I actually was. I remember seeing him and I was like, you know, that almost looks like that guy from the zoo. And it was. And it was. Sure enough was. My mom, you know, talked to his mom. You know, I mean, there's only so many people at Craig, so you kind of grow close with them all. I guess so. I guess so. He. I believe he's back up in his home area now, which I think was Minnesota. You know, I'm not entirely sure. But he is a young man. He was a freshman at Mizzou and they had a massive party. And, you know, there was a lot of there's a lot of blame that can go around. But what wound up happening was a severe change to him for the rest of his life with alcohol poisoning that was so close to killing him. Yeah, it was. It was just a hair away from that. He survived, but not as the functioning 18, 19 year old that he was beforehand. Really, really tough thing all the way around. So you see something like that, obviously a whole different thing. Same age range. Yeah. So you guys are in rehab and you've got to look at that and be like, but look what I have. So, yeah, it did not take long to realize that, you know, and this goes for anyone. Anytime you think you have a bad someone out there, as it were, you know, I a lot of people look at me and, you know, they're like, wow, man, he's got a got a rough one early. I live a super blessed life. You know, I'm so grateful for what I still do have. And it didn't take long for my eyes to be opened. You know what, Craig? I mean, that's not only a spinal cord injury, but also brain injury and brain injury is much worse than a spinal cord injury, in my opinion, you know, just seeing some of those people that are there, it didn't take long to be grateful for what I still had. Was there also at that point some a level of like therapy that you were getting into? Did you have a group session? Yeah. So it was it was basically 730 in the morning till five in the evening of just just constant therapy. I'd go from, you know, occupational to physical therapy, learn how to get dressed, how to go to the bathroom, how to change, how to get dressed, how to cook, how to transfer, how to drive, how to get on a plane, how to get back out in public, how to go to concerts, how to, you know, do so many things. What about the mental component? Yeah, so there was, you know, I did have they provided, but I had to like see a counselor there and stuff. But, you know, I'm more so into just praying, you know, just going to I mean, that's my counselor. I haven't really ever seen. If a counselor talks to you and you I don't want to minimize what you went through and the mountain that you climbed. But if they were talking to you early on this, you're like, I've already got this, dude. They've got to be like, yeah, you're lying to yourself. He felt pretty defeated. He's like, man, you got to talk to somebody. I was like, you know, at this point, I was in a good, better headspace than where I was, you know, from the first day to, you know, when I got out in Craig and I could definitely see the light at the end of the tunnel. And I, you know, met a bunch of lifelong friends out there that, you know, guys that were my age that were also freshmen or sophomore in college that, you know, went through a tragedy. And, you know, that's, that's really what I needed was to just see that, you know, I'm not the only one going through this, you know, there's so many other people out there, you know, in this life that, you know, are going through super similar struggles that I'm going through. You know, this, this other thing that has come around with your family and your, and your dad is, his motivation is contagious, I think. And between the other successes that he's had, you guys as a family now opened up a franchise location of Game Day Men's Health. Now, this is going to sound like some big commercial endorsement of it, and I don't care if it comes off the way, but it's really, isn't it interesting what has happened with you? You got men that walk into that clinic because something's not right with them. And they're like, I think I need some help. And for some of us, it'll very much feel like we've gotten all into my manhood over here. And so they got to come in and they walk in and if they don't know you and if they're not expecting you in there, you're right there, aren't you? You're greeting people as they walk in and you're in a wheelchair. Yeah, yeah. And we're talking about men, men's health, and you're like, I'm a man. Let's talk about men's health. You think this is tough for you? What do you think I'm doing? OK, is that right? I mean, you could be very, very forward like that. For sure. I mean, I don't, I don't really know. I just look at myself like I don't even like thinking about a chair. Like I don't, I don't like the word disability. I don't like the word, you know, handicap. I just I think of myself as, you know, I can do anything that an able bodied person can do. I can climb steps. I can work a nine to five. I can run my own company. I can go to the gym. You know, I can drive my truck. I can I can do anything that I put my mind to. So I don't you know, I just kind of look at it almost as if it's my new legs. And, you know, that's about all the thought that I entertain as far as, you know, life in a wheelchair. Because I don't even, I don't even think about it. Have you ever had to get up into somebody's junk and be like, what are you doing over there? Crabbing about this crap? Do you want me to come over and kick your ass right now? I mean, look, there's got to be friends of yours your age that'll say something about their life. You look at me. Shut up. I mean, right. Yeah. I mean, I, I more so just try to, you know, encourage. I mean, I don't know. I don't really. Stop being so nice. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't try to, you know, push it on anyone. You know, I don't. I mean, I, I think actions speak louder than words. You know, you don't have to tell me about your mom. We talk about your dad quite a bit. Tell me about your mom and what this has been like for her. So she was, you know, obviously my dad runs his own company. So throughout this entire process, he was, you know, there as much as he could be. And, you know, was there a tremendous amount. But my mom was really the person that was by my side throughout the entire process. She was a teacher. So they allowed her to just kind of leave and, you know, take care of what we need to take care of. So she was basically by my side for four straight months. She moved out to Denver with me and lived with me through throughout that entire process. Did you ever look at her and go, I'm so sick of your mom, please give me a break over here. The reality is, if you love your mother and we all do, there still comes a time where you're like, God, if I could just have a break from her for a little while. So the thing about Craig is they actually had like a completely separate living quarter for family. So it's not like, you know, the night would come around. I would go to my bed and then she would go walking down the sidewalk and go to her apartment. So it was it wasn't like we were together 24 seven. You know, she was just there, you know, during the day through my therapy sessions. And then, you know, she would kind of go back to the apartment. And, you know, throughout that entire process, I had friends that would fly up and visit me. You know, my sisters, my my dad. I mean, it was every weekend I'd have visitors a lot of times throughout the week. I think it'd be very difficult for for any mother with one of their kids going through what you're going through and still being at that age range, you know, teens to early 20s and just let you go to Denver to a rehab center. I'll be back here hanging out so I can certainly understand your older sister, Trinity, and your younger sister's name is Kate. And is she in college now? She's a senior this year, Rockbridge at Rockbridge. Yeah, go Bruins and and the two of them. Did they come out to Denver? Also, you out there all the time. And what was it like for them? I asked about your dad and mom. Were they in there sobbing at your bed in the hospital? No, I mean, it was. They didn't laugh. They were like, yeah, I mean, it was just, you know, like nothing ever changed. I mean, we cracking jokes, you know, everyone's laughing, having a good time. And I think that's how you have to go about it. You know, it's. You know, you have to focus your energy and in the. On the right things, you got through those toughest, toughest times, and then when was it that? And obviously, because I wanted to go back through everything, get as deep that we never did before in other shows. So I want to go through all that time. But you had already turned the corner early on in this discussion. Where have you turned the corner by the time you were Craig? You were feeling very, very positive and everything. When is the first time you had to look at a friend and go, will you stop feeling sorry for me? I mean, my friends really never felt sorry for me. I don't think really. Yeah, they know who I am. You know, at heart, I I'm the same person I was before the injury as I am now. So, you know, no one, no one really ever, I don't think, felt sorry for me from what I know. Well, I'm not feeling sorry for you. I want you to have a movie. I want you to. I mean, you took you took a couple of bullets that night and he emptied the chamber with the last round going into you. Oh, question. If they do make a movie about you, let's just say it's going to happen. All right. Yeah. Who do you want to play you in the movie? I like that. I like that. I don't. That's a great question. I haven't even. Well, I think you need to. Yes, we're going to make a movie. Who would you pick to play him in a movie? Well, no, no, no, because it's a personal thing. No, no, no. It's tough for me because of my age. Right. So I could probably pick some people that would play me. Robert Redford. We just lost him. So, yeah, yeah. Robert Redford playing me would be awesome. No, I was like, I don't know. Miles Teller. What about him playing you? Do you like him? I wouldn't be bad. OK, that's good. Miles Teller. Yeah, that'd be good. Somebody, somebody tweet him real quick. I like that going. What what about with you being a game day men's health right now and and that's where your your work is. But what else is going on with your I mean, like, didn't I see you've done the whole skiing thing? Yeah, I mean, I've done I was skiing before. Yeah. So I skied my entire life. And actually, I think it was at Craig whenever I found that I could still ski. And I was like, well, you're telling me I could still ski. That's crazy. And you're doing the sit down. Yeah, it's mono. It's like a mix between snowboarding and skiing. So it's one ski. It's got a bucket attached to the ski. I transfer into the bucket and then I do hand riggers. And that's kind of, you know, how I turn and everything. And I could, you know, it was a challenge when I first started. I was falling, falling a lot. You know, I don't have abs. So learning how to balance was tough. But, you know, now you don't have abs because you said you're paraplegic. Yeah. Like chest down. Yeah. I don't have any core. No. But I mean, I have like maybe my so basically from your armpits. Yeah. Like chest. Yeah, that's what I have. So, you know, it was tough to learn how to ski. But, you know, now I can ski anywhere on the mountain. I can I can fly past. No, I just know it jumps. How bad do you have to feel? You're up there skiing. And then he just whizzes right by you. You're like, what just happened? I tell you, when I when I learned how to ski, I was already in my mid upper 20s. And it's like the scariest thing in skiing is getting on and off the chairlift. It's like I'm going to fall. Yeah. Now imagine. And I'm going to knock everybody. Yeah. So I don't I don't even have any idea. I have to like the lifts coming in. I have to transfer up on the lift with my hand riggers. And then once we get to the top, they don't stop. They just keeps going. So then you just got to throw yourself off and then just ride it out. Good. Oh, man. Wow. You know, I'm really glad you had the chance to learn how to ski beforehand. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it doesn't really correlate at all. Like I don't. Well, I mean, you understood snow. I understood the basics and, you know, kind of out of turn. And I've had, you know, some good instructors along the way. This last time I went out to Aspen, my ski instructor was actually a paraplegic in a sit ski. And he would like teach able bodied people how to ski. So he'd go anywhere on the mountain, do lessons every day, spend 12 hours out there. So just being able to see him, you know, he kind of gave me pointers and tips and tricks. And is there anything else you're doing like cliff diving or anything else? I should I should know. I mean, I definitely want to go skydiving. Are you serious? Yeah, I'd love to. I've been I'm not going back again. Really? Really? It's something I've always wanted. I feel like after after you go once, like if you do it, you've never heard somebody talk negatively. Here's a dark joke for you. It's not like you can be paralyzed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I honest to God, I had like some PTSD every time I'd see there'd be like a sky rising commercial on somebody's jump on a plane and go. So you didn't enjoy it? I mean, you tandem or solo tandem. I mean, you've got it. It would take a long time to get to the other point. And but it's it's terrifying to go through it. I did it, you know, but if you want. I never wanted to. And my kids made me. Yeah. So I feel like it's just something you got to check. If you want to try it, if you want to, then you're going to wind up probably eventually going solo and you'll do multiple jobs. Yeah, I think because I think you'll be that person. We'll see. I mean, I've never been a huge fan of roller coasters or anything like that, but I feel like it's just one of those things that you got to experience at least once. What about things like any water activities? Are you can you do anything? Yeah, I mean, I can still swim. You can swim. You can only move from the arm. You can say I can swim probably better than a lot of people. I've always I've grown up in the water. So I can still, you know, go down and back. We have a big pool. I can still go down and back underwater. I can swim very well. I just went to the ocean. I was swimming out in the ocean with the waves just getting pummeled. I can still I can still hunt. I'm I'm actually. Let's talk about hunting for a moment. Can we? When I was doing some of the research for this particular get together, Tegan, I saw it said something about whatever, whatever guy in Missouri who shot. I want to make sure I get this right. The state record eight and eight beards, bearded gobbler. I never unofficial, unofficial. But yeah, the I've seen the picture. Yeah, the biggest, biggest turkey, eight beards on the turkey. And it was you. How did you get out there? How did you get out there to do that? So it really depends on what I'm hunting. I've definitely had to get creative. So I have a track chair. It's kind of like a skid steer without the top half. It's got tracks. But it's not powered. Yeah. Battery powered. That is also I can go. Oh, that's anywhere on my farm to hunt. And I'm getting ready to buy. I just found it. I it's exactly what I've envisioned. I just didn't know how to make it. And then I found a company that makes it. So it's a deer stand that looks like a normal deer stand. It's got a rail that you hook onto the tree. And it's got an attachment that you hook a hang on stand to it. And it raises and lowers. So I can look at like the stair lift things. But it's just straight on the street, straight up and down. And I can go 20 foot in there. And I was just blown away. Then the duck hunt. I have a canoe that my buddies. I go from the truck to the canoe. I get on my buddy's back, walks down to the marsh with me on his back, transfers me into the canoe and then pulls me out to the marsh. So I can still believe I can't get over the track wheelchair. Do you have social media where we can follow? You said you shoot like some tick tocks and stuff. Yeah, I need to get I need to get better at posting, you know, my day to day. Well, when it's your own day to day life, it just kind of seems like the norm. But I you know, the more people I talk to, I realize, you know, I mean, I'm just all this stuff in my head. I just want to I want to see I want to see you swim. I want to see you. I really, really want to see the track chair. Yeah, I really want to see. I agree. And I'm going to say this and I mean this from my heart. You know why you suck, Tegan? Is it you not only are scoring goblers out there? All right. You get the eight bearded top. I've never bagged a bird yet. I've never. What what the hell? You see what I'm saying? Yeah, I think it I think it is really interesting and what we look at with other human beings and we say they've got it rough or they've got everything. And the reality is, I don't care how big the celebrity superstar is and how much money they have. They wake up some mornings and wish they were dead. Yeah, they wake up some mornings in the depression. There's all kinds of bad things that can happen. They stub their toes. Everybody stubs their toes, man. And it's all these things that happen with what doesn't feel it. If you don't. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I've got so many like burns and cuts on my leg. I'm like, man, you can't ever feel. Yeah. And I'm like, I know that hurt. I know that hurt really bad. But but it's it's there. It's that's the way that it is the way that it is. You got a gorgeous smile, man. I think also what's up with your future? I'm getting a little uncomfortable over here. Who are you dating? Who are you dating now? So I was actually talking to a girl for, I don't know, probably a month before I got hurt. And she stayed with me throughout the entire entirety of everything. Are you guys still together? Yeah, still together. Going on four years now or coming up on four years. Well, that's fantastic. So, yeah, that is fantastic. Stayed by my side. Are there not to make you uncomfortable. What are there? Are there bells in the future, you're thinking for wedding bells? Yeah, they use my time. He's pressed up against the monitor right now. That's not what I was like. No, no, no need to rush anything. I'm only 22. You know, I'm still, you know, I'm glad you brought that up because what we're talking about at the age of 18 or almost 19 or whatever, that it's not that long ago. You are still a young man. And wow, just entering your 20s. Yeah, just entering. Most people don't even get married these days to learn their 30s. It seems like I agree with Charlie Kirk. I think get married young, have kids and let's go and get that get that thing moving. Yeah, congratulations on being born into a family like you have. Yes, very, very thankful for my family. He I think he embodies. I say this phrase to my youth kids in the youth group. I say it to my own children all the time. I love the phrase. Life is 10 percent. What happens to you? Ninety percent. Ninety percent. How you respond to it. He literally is the embodiment of that persona. Yeah, I believe that that's true. Tegan Higgins, thank you so much for being on the podcast. You are an inspiration for having me on here. Let's get that movie going. Yeah, I want to see the movie. And also, would you guide me on my next turkey hunt? Because I really I really need a lot of help on there. Thank you so much for the chair. I want to see Tom jogging after the track chair. Tegan Higgins, appreciate it, man. What a what an amazing story all the way around. And see, this is I think this is one of the reasons why this podcast makes sense to me and for me is that we were not able to have this kind of conversation in the radio shows, even with all the freedoms I had and all the shots I was able to call on the last radio show, which was 10 years with almost zero formatics and everything. But this is just it's different. Yeah, it is different. And so it gives us a chance to really go deep and have a great time. And I want to go check out his truck. Yeah, I want to finish. I got to see that. I'm hoping he'll shoot. He's like shooting video and stuff. I hope that he'll show us some more video because that's I would follow his channel. Absolutely. I just want to see him doing all the I'm really curious about the swimming thing. That one, I'd really like to see a video of Tegan's. I agree, man. Such an inspiration. I agree. And God, I've always loved swimming. Yeah, me too. And if I had something happen where I would lose the control or use of parts of my body, I would hope I'd still be able to do that. Yeah, I was going to ask him maybe something in the future. I will. I wonder if he's ever tried that wakeboarding that goes on behind a boat. Oh, yeah. I mean, if he can, if he can single sit in a ski, I would imagine he'd be able to. Well, I guess if the falling out part might be the well, I mean, you got some kind of rotation. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. That's a great question. I mean, if you've got the ability to do a lot of that stuff, then maybe it comes around. All right. Before we finish up this morning, you know that we're going to have to get into keeping your eye. We have to keep our eye on something, right? You do have to always keep your eye on the crap. Are you ready? You got to keep your eyes on the grass. You can't handle the crap. OK, here there's a big difference between shit and shine. As my great grandfather always said, Matumba, keep your eye on the crap. God, I love Matumba. It's been like two months now. I still laugh every time I hear that. My man, keep your eye on the crap. Brought to you by Family Focus Eye Care. It's FamFocusEye.com, Dr. Rich and their incredible team. And I certainly appreciate everything they've done for me and with me. And I just I I got to go get my eyes checked again. I got to go get my eyes checked and see what's going on with the stuff. They're now opening up a new place at the lake. So we'll talk about that. You can announce it because last week you said they were opening a new place, but you didn't you said you couldn't say where yet. Is that the official? Oh, did I just give it away? Yeah, well, no. I mean, if you're allowed to say it now. I don't know if I was allowed to or not. Well, you just said, you know, I don't like it's at the lake. Dr. Rich, I'm sorry if I mentioned that you're opening up. I'm pretty sure he knows he wants people to know where his location is. I don't think that's bad. Well, I'll tell you what. Here's what I'll tell you. A family focus. I care. And their location at the lake is going to sponsor the new wakeboarding competition among paraplegic paraplegic wakeboarding. Yeah. Brought to you by family focus. I don't care. I keep your eye on the crap, dude. This is when I say keep your eye on the crap. This is keep your eye on the junk or don't. I'm going to tell you right now. I just read this last day or so released ABC 17 news dot com. Randolph County woman accused of sending illicit photos of a man without his permission. When I say illicit, I mean, like he was missing some things. You hear what I'm saying? Oh, my gosh. Randolph County woman charged yesterday. Authorities say she sent nude photos of a man to people he knew without his permission. Now, I'm not saying that Ronnie Spicer of Cairo really did this or not. Charged, though, with consensual dissemination of private sexual images. That is a really long shot, man. Yeah. Yeah. We talk about this all the time the other way, right? I mean, we are constantly talking like don't ever send pictures, don't send stuff. This is the first time I've ever heard of it happening to a male. Usually it's it's a female getting images shared. So this is the first time I've heard of it. Well, it's that it's that whole revenge porn thing. And it's like the statement says, don't take it. Just don't take the picture. Just don't put it on the digital. Right. Let me ask you a question. And I want you to be honest. And this, you know, you're God fearing man. I'm very scared right now. Are there pictures floating around out there of you? Not a chance. With nothing on. Not a chance. There is there is one of me that has existed. I don't know. It's not. And I don't know if it still exists. Deb took the picture. I was 19. Yeah, we were in our first apartment above a garage and there was a bathtub there. There was no shower head at the bathtub. It sounds like I'm 180 years old. Like we used to warm the water. We really need to see this bucket. She took she took this is on film that had to get developed. You know, send us in. Couldn't they see the pictures? You mean when it was developed? Yeah. Yeah, there's probably there's probably a guy. Check it out. Hey, Billy, come here, guy. Billy, come here. Check this out. So I am I'm rinsing my hair, which I had a lot of hair back then. Yeah, this is before the mullet. But it was still fro days for me. And I'm rinsing my hair under the faucet of the bathtub. OK, so the rest of me is I guess we're going to we're going to call it downward dog. I didn't even know yoga back then. And I'm I'm I'm stark, clean and all you put all you see rising above the level of the tub is just I appreciate my bear. It's just my word picture for it. It's just my bear ass. So now that I've painted it, you don't have to see it. But if ever. But otherwise, there are no pictures. You know, we got men now. They're sending pictures of their junk over to people. They don't even know. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense to me at all. They're like an exhibitionist. They want to be seen out there anyway. She had the picture. She sent it and she sent it out and to people. And now she was arrested. And again, the charge is non consensual dissemination of private sexual images. It almost if I was a judge, I had to read through that thing. I started laughing in the middle. Or it could be just it's a huge violation of privacy. Of course, you think you're sharing. It'd be the NCD of PSI. If you want to if you want the brevity, I can go that the NCD of PSI. Good abbreviations. And you got that right there. All right. As we finish up today, I want to remind you that Stone Shiners is the band that is live starting at seven o'clock tomorrow evening. Really? Here you talk about the stone shiners after talking about the man getting his picture sent out. Well, yeah, well, yeah. Sorry, that whole thing. Come see the stone shiners. Keep your eye on the craft. Rocky by family focus. I care. We got to get out of here. Thank you, Tegan Higgins. Thank you, Ellis Bennis. My friends live this day as if it were your last. I say to you, OK.