TTBS “The Podcast” Season 1 Episode 6

Whether we like it or not, he's the self-proclaimed governor of mid-Missouri and he's the host of TTBS, the podcast. Since we can't shut him the hell up, here's Tom Bradley. Thank you, Nikki Garman. Appreciate that. And a big apology going out to everyone who was just dying and waiting for this podcast to begin because we had some learning curves at the front of this thing, I think we're going to call that, and someone's going to be chiming in with their giggles right here. I can't even call them giggles. You're the loudest laugher I've ever met in my life. You really are. Sorry, I'm trying to keep it under control. I appreciate that. It is Ellis Bennis, Floating Acts Web Designs, who joins us this morning. We'll talk about that in a moment. First a mention of what we're going to be talking about. Individuals who are homeless, I didn't call them homeless people. Do you know what the problem is in calling them homeless people? They're people first, Ellis. They're people first. You know, you don't call them homeless people, they're people who are homeless. And then you can change that into unhoused and everything else you want. Here's the deal. They're homeless people. Are we there? We're not live. That's not showing on YouTube anyway. And you would think that we are by now? I would have thought, yeah, because it went almost instant a second ago when you did it. It still says over here, it says stop streaming. But so normally you start the stream on OBS and then you start the stream on the actual platform. It says live. It's a minute 45 on this. Do you want me to kill it? Hang on. All right. There we go. All right. It was just my phone. It was you? I'm sorry. It was you throwing another curve at me. I'm sorry. I'm trying to mess you up today. We wouldn't even be up and running if it hadn't been for you saving our asses earlier. So thank you for that. No problem. For that help. All right. I'm going to be tripping and falling all the way through this thing. But we haven't had anyone in your position on the podcast yet. We'll talk about that and a couple of other things we want to get into. I want to mention why we're here. We're here to talk about an issue that's been brought up for the last three, four, five, eight months. I don't even know how long. We have homeless people who have camped out on property and trashed the living hell out of the property. The property owners have been told, you better clean it up or you're going to be getting fined some really hefty fines. And I think it's time for us to really talk at length and bring somebody on to a media outlet that has gone through this crap. This has all been going on behind the scenes and nobody wants to talk about it except everybody I know. It doesn't make any sense at all. You said we're not going to make that important announcement today? We can if you want to. Oh. Since you just said that, I feel like we have to. No, no. I don't want to. I don't want to cause you. No, I mean, we're doing it anyway. So we might as well talk about it. I mean, maybe somebody can learn from the process or, I don't want to say mistake, but maybe it was a mistake. Well, we were, I was going to, here. It's about foodtruckyourself.com. Right. I don't, I won't, I won't mention it on here. I'll just. I haven't completely given up yet, but I'm close to giving up. I mean, that's the crux of the issue. Then we're going to have a chance to, there's a couple of announcements we want to make this morning. One, coming up after our interview with our wonderful guest, Pamela, that's going to be joining us in a moment. We'll have a chance to jump into a very important feature on every one of our podcasts, which is Keep Your Eye on the Crap, brought to you by Family Focus Eye Care, which is incredibly important. And they take care of my eyes. And you got to keep your eye on the crap. So we'll talk about that after we talk to Pamela. You're not old enough to know the old television series from the seventies, Beretta. No, I never watched it. I've heard of it, but I've never watched it. But you would, you would have no idea the theme song from that thing. No. It's a song by Sammy Davis, Jr. Are you going to sing it? I really want to belt it, man. I really want to. I got to move the mic away. I actually, I swear to God, I practiced it on the way over to Truman's this morning. I practiced it. And I, and I want so bad, except the name of the song is Keep Your Eye on the Sparrow. And I was thinking, because we get to crap. Yeah. Well, crap. Oh crap. Keep your eye on the crap. And I, so we'll get into that family focus. I care at the end. They approved that messaging, by the way. Keep your eye on the crap. That was right in line with what they wanted for Brown. I forgot to ask. That's I feel like that should be a double promotion. You should have keep your eye on. That's the first part. And then a plumbing company or a waste treatment company for the second half. Wait a second. Keep your eye on the crap. That's my family focus. I care. And I really, I really liked it. Call Tom Bradley Productions to discuss them. I love the way, I love the way that you've shifted into how can Tom make more money? That's always my goal. God, that's good. We have got to, we got to work on that thing. Okay. And I have something else I want to get to before we jump in with Pamela and talk about the homeless trashing of property, which is what we're going to be spending almost completely all of our time today on. But I got to bring up something else with you. If you're a Christian, I have to ask you a question. You're getting ready to take some time off to work, taking time off from the job to go work in the ministry. You're going to be a minister on a mission. Yep. Just for one week. We're on a mission from God. We're on a mission. That's right. That's scary. When you say it like that, by the way, people that shut and lock their doors, I'm on a mission from God. Like we got to go. Are you going to a faraway country? No, we're staying. We're staying stateside. We're actually going to Wagoner, South Dakota. Are you saying that we have enough sinning non-believers in, where did you say? Have you seen the news? So our goal, we're going to Wagner, South Dakota. Oh, they're sinning bastards. Yeah, I'm not saying that, but I mean, we've all sinned and fallen short of the glory. So, but no, what we're doing specifically is we have in our network of churches, there's a church in Wagner, South Dakota on an Indian reservation. It's called All Tribes Fellowship. And so we're going up to bless them. We're going to run a vacation Bible school for their kids up there. We're going to do some construction projects for the church. We're taking our kids with us. So we're trying to show them like, this is how you give back in. This is how you help people, lift people up. And shockingly, the Indian relationship with, you know, the non-natives of the U.S. and the church is actually really a sad relationship because there's a lot of bad stuff that's happened over the years. Yeah, I know there is. We're trying to maybe make that just a little bit better too. The United States screwed over the native peoples of this land and that wasn't enough. They just keep going back and slapping the hell out of them. Are you saying Indians need Jesus? Everybody needs Jesus. Everybody. Okay, that's what I thought you were going to say. I want to talk about, just real briefly, one of the reasons I love your level of your faith and you and your wonderful wife is that you guys don't have a problem in talking about, but also laughing about it. Yeah. You've got to have a sense of humor. And I was thinking to myself, because I thought you were taking vacation. And then I saw something, I don't know if you said vacation Bible school or something. Yeah, vacation Bible school. And I'm like, does Bible school sound like a vacation to me? I don't think so. But I went deeper on this thing. I want you to know this. And I thought to myself, because you know I love the Gospels. And I thought to myself, did Jesus ever take a vacation? You say no. But did he or did he not book something on a trip to Jerusalem, am I right? His travel agent, which he's still pissed at today, sent him into Jerusalem on an ass. That's correct. Yes. There were no Ubers back then. My kids love that scripture because when I read it, I read, Jesus rode in the town of Nazareth on a donkey. And they're like, Dad, that's not what it says. They can read three letter words. I'm still pissed. I got ahold of a travel agent years ago and I said, I'm looking at a vacation with some ass. And she said, let me work something out. I'm going to Jerusalem, Jesus style. Yeah, that's good. No, I want to, some other time I want to talk about Jesus and the last discussion we had that we were at Shakespeare's Pizza and we were both getting a refill on cups. And I had a big man's cup and you had a little kid's cup. And you're a bigger man than I am. And we talked about it. We'll get into that. We'll get into that at some other time. But in the meantime, release the hounds, a chance to throw out a special announcement to you brought to you by Creekside Pet Center, mid-mode dogboarding.com, and that includes Creekside Bed and Biscuit as well as Dirty Harry's in Boonville. Release the hounds. Here's the special announcement. I'm not going to go to FTY, but I am going to do this. Facebook screwed over the brummets and the Facebook pages for all three of those dogboarding facilities. Really? And they were locked out and couldn't update. It was a horrible thing for months because they said their account was hacked. Let me explain this to you. The federal government needs to be regulating what the hell Facebook and anyone like them, even their cousins, anybody walked in the room looking like Facebook, they need to be regulating them to the point of anything else that we're going through today, medical broadcasting and communications, telecommunications, anything in banking, marijuana, they need to be regulating. Facebook goes, yeah, we can't help you. It's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, it's terrible. I just did a presentation to our legacy group, our elder Christians at our church, talking about if you get locked out of your Facebook, and I tell my clients this too, I was like, there's nothing you can do about it. There's no recourse. You're screwed. The only thing good for all the pet owners and lovers in the area and the brummets is that Jacob and Amanda went with Deb and I to 1839 Tap House and had some beers the other night. During that time, it might have been a little bit of a hands-on kind of thing. Maybe we all knelt and prayed, and I know you'd appreciate that. Or maybe it was just me and Deb hearing them out. In the next 12 hours, like overnight, a magical thing happened. It all came back. That's amazing. In the morning, what time was it, 8 o'clock, 7? They were hitting us like, you're not going to believe this. It's back. That's fantastic. So that's the big announcement is that they're back. They've now been able to post a lot of stuff from Dirty Harry's in Boonville for Bed & Biscuit and Creekside Pet Center, so thank you very much. Don't bet on that, though. So I've been doing this a long time. I've never once heard that happen, ever. That you got it back? Yeah, I've never. I've never heard that. Well, I will tell you, there was a United States Senator who was involved toward the end. Wow, that's cool. But I don't know that that's what did it, because they already reached out. But in the hours before they got it back, they did reach out to the governor of mid-Missouri. You got to know some people. All right, we're going to go to what everybody wants to talk about and hear about, and that is a chance to talk about some of the crap we're putting up with, the trash we're putting up with from people who, bless their hearts, may be homeless. Pamela joins us this morning. Pamela, thank you for being here. You're welcome. It is, and by the way, you were late. I'm sorry. Pamela. None of the tech worked anyway. We were so late getting everything ready. So I almost feel like you could have been in the parking lot watching us going, these poor bastards. They don't know what they're doing. Pamela, we heard about this, and I want to credit the Real Columbia, Missouri on their Facebook page. I don't know if they have other social media off the top of my head, because I don't follow a lot of other stuff. But boy, did I start seeing them when they came around. Were you also a follower of theirs? Yes, I am. When they started posting that people had had their property trashed up, and were threatened with fines from a certain government body, I really couldn't believe it. I wanted more proof of this thing. And they kept chiming in with more and more of this, and you are one of the property owners that experienced this. Yes, I am. Good God. This piece of property that was trashed up, I'm going to ask some questions. If any question I ask you, any time during this conversation, feels too personal, or because of the way some people can be out there, if it feels like something that's a threat against your safety, don't answer it. Just look at me and just shake your head like, that's not going to happen. Do you live on the property? Yes, I do. Do you live alone on the property? No, I do not. I'd like to ask you how many firearms you have on the property, but I'm not going to, because I've already decided I'm not going to get into that. But my recommendation would be that everyone needs a couple of those in the house. You guys live on the property. It's a good chunk of property. Can I mention, at least, that many of us have seen your property because of the homeless trashing it up. Did you know that I saw that homeless site? I'm aware that a lot of people have seen it. It's hard to miss it, isn't it? It is very hard. Or was, because I don't know where we are on that thing. Can I mention what roadway we might have been on? I won't. I'll mention it's a major thoroughfare and a lot of people would see it depending on the direction you were going and if you knew what to look for first. Because as soon as you glanced, you were like, oh my Lord. My son, our son, first showed it to us and then eventually I said, Deb, check this out. And Sean might have been in the car at the time. And did you, was he in the car when you first got to see that? Maybe? No. And I pointed it out. I'm like, check this thing out. And I have this thing with Deb. I'll watch the road. I promise I will. You look to your right as we drive by. And she looked over and I'm like, holy crap. How long? Yeah, it was horrible. And there was a lot of it that you actually couldn't see from the road. Wow. Yeah, because I have the pictures. We're going to go to the pictures in a moment. When do you think a round figure date was the first time someone homeless camped on your property? So we have lived there for quite a while, for a few years. And we noticed right off the bat that there, we would find sleeping bags and trash in odd locations on our property. So it's been going on for a while. Fortunately, across the road from us was a huge encampment. And so it kind of kept it off of our property periodically, but then that encampment got cleaned out. I'm assuming that encampment was on city property, right? No, it is on private property. That was also private property. It is private property as well. And so that when that one got cleaned out, they just moved across the road, which was our property. Who cleaned out that property? I am not sure. But I do know, just because of the location of it, I do know that it was an ungodly amount of, it took a lot of time to get it cleaned out. There was an ungodly amount of trash. I don't know who, I don't know who cleaned it out. But it was, it was on personal property. It was. I do know that for a fact that it was on personal property. So it was probably the owner that took care of it. You weren't in touch with them. You didn't see who was cleaning it out. You're not aware if maybe they were or were not threatened with fines. That I do not know. I just, I talked to an individual who managed that property. And so that's how I know that it is private property, because at first I thought it was public. Well, there's no, I mean, unless you own the property, it's really hard to know what you're dealing with. Right. You know, when the city cleaned out one because they were threatened by the DNR, if I'm, if I'm. Yeah. I mean, they're not in the seawater. They're literally just going in the streams. Yeah. That is the reason why ours got cleaned out. DNR? Yes. Interesting. So, so yours was getting trashed up. I'm going to go to the picture still in a moment. And I don't want to shut us down with my technical wizardry over here. If we disappear when Tom touches the button, we will be back. Yeah. Also, also for those who are listening as a podcast, we're trying to keep focused on that. I appreciate my friend Chris reminding me of that, which is a weird thing to have to remind me because I'm a child of radio and audio, but we get so focused on these damn cameras that we have to take care of that sometimes we forget one or the other. If you're listening to this as a podcast, it is truly being produced as a podcast. If you're watching it as a video, you're like, yeah, but we can't see Pamela. You're not supposed to see Pamela if I didn't mention that already. So there's not going to be a camera on Pamela during the video. And also we'll get to some housekeeping later that I've completely forgot at the front end of the podcast. But this, your property has people camping on there and they're trashing it up. You had to know on your own if somebody's camping there, they're going to leave stuff around. We did. We didn't notice them at first because of where they were. It was kind of secluded kind of back, but then when the leaves start falling off the trees and that's when you notice a lot more. So we didn't notice it at first. And at first there was only one or two individuals down there. And then it became, we would start seeing other people there. And you know, my husband was in constant, constant contact with them telling them, you've got to move on. You've got to move on. And where the police contacted as well, I'm assuming, yes, they were contacted several times. Let me ask you on that, on the law enforcement, did you reach out to the Columbia police department because you are in city limits? Yes. Did you ever reach out to the county sheriff? No. Okay. And what about the Iowa patrol since it's near a big thoroughfare? We did talk to MoDOT and MoDOT told us that part of the encampment was on their land and part of it was on our land. Later on down the road, we found out that they were not on MoDOT. It was completely on ours. But then whenever the police are called, I mean, this is an active breaking of the law. Somebody is on your property that does not have permission to be on your property. They're breaking the law. So you called law enforcement. Did they come out? Did they visit? Did they talk to the people? Was there arrests discussed? We had several visits from law enforcement. But there was no arrest? There was no arrest. I mean, there was somebody standing on your property, breaking the law, they're watching them break the law. There was no arrest made. Yeah. And let me include that we had approximately 100 no trespassing signs posted. A hundred? Yes. Can I ask how many acres you have there? Nine. Nine. A hundred signs on nine acres. Every tree on the perimeter. Yeah. And we also… Oh my goodness. So not a hundred all at one time. I would say we probably have 30, 40 at one time. Yeah. But let me guess, they get torn down, right? They get torn down. They get, I mean, blatantly thrown down right on the ground. Right where… When those police came out and there were no arrests made, do you mean that they then got back in their squad car and pulled away and drove off with people still on your property? So there was a few times that they were actually removed, but they were… Do you mind being specific when you say removed, were they handcuffed and taken away? That I don't know. Oh, okay. Because we didn't witness that. You weren't there watching. I understand. I understand. So they were removed only to come back a few days later. Yeah. So nothing was taken seriously from them. Do you know, at times like that, do you guys have any idea, have you recognized them? Like, oh, that's the one. Did you come up with nicknames for the homeless? That's Old Limpy. That one over there is Druggie Boy. I mean… Well, we did have a registered sex offender that was using our property. You sent me some sort of information on that. They used your property as an address with the registry for sex offenders? Yes. So that means your property showed up as a registered sex offender because they used your address? That is correct. Oh, my word. How long did that go on? Quite a while. Oh, my. And the registry's like, okay, thanks for checking in. Yeah. To a property you don't own, you're not legally on, you're not supposed to be there. And if anything, though, you could give them this. They were honest. Yeah. Yeah, no, I know I'm a sex offender. I know I've got to check in with you guys. Here I am. Here's where I'm living now. Yeah. And, you know, we even was… my husband talking to one of the police officers at one time, we were even warned that one of the individuals down there was a real bad dude, is what they called him. What does that mean? I think he has a long list of criminal activity. I'm always confused when you have a long list of criminal activity and you're not locked up. I don't get that. And you're on somebody else's property. Yeah, actively breaking the law again. And they tell you this. And by the way, I love law enforcement. We need law enforcement officers and agencies, and I appreciate what they're out there as full bodies doing, but somebody's making some bad decisions on this now. I can blame it on the chief. I can blame it on the city. I can blame it on the officer themselves or the on-duty sergeant. I don't have any idea. But somebody's making a wrong decision to say, yeah, by the way, there's a bad dude down there. Yeah. He's actively breaking the law. Go arrest him. Yeah. I don't understand that at all. This is a major problem. And this is long before we get to the point of you being told you have to get it cleaned up. So we'll still get to there. So let's go. I'm going to try to go to the other media source. Let's go. I'll watch and see if it disappears. I think it's, I think it's three. Well, if this makes, if there's audio, I don't know what to do, but I'm going to click on it. Nope. We already had that one. Remember? Okay. We're not supposed to have that. So we're going to go for, oh, it's, it's windows capture. There we go. All right. These are going to be pictures that I'm going to go through for you guys to be able to see these. And I'm scaling it out the best I can for the video. If you're listening to the podcast, I'll tell you right now, it's horrible followed by even more horrible. I'll describe a little bit, Pamela, and we'll kind of talk through it. One, I see it looks like there's a fire burning in the background, maybe a smoldering fire. Did they have fires on a regular basis? So we were actually given a fire permit when we were in the process of cleaning it up. You were using that to clean up some of this. Yes. It looks like there's a fire burning in the background. I'm going to guesstimate that we, we probably burned over a hundred boxes. Good. Great. I see bicycles out there. When I say bicycles, I want to accentuate the S on the end of bicycles. How many bicycles do you think were on your property? There had to have been 30 or more. Is that a big screen TV? Yes. There was a big screen down there. Do they have generators or anything like that? We did find a generator. Are you serious? I am serious. How the hell do you get a generator? How do you, how do you get that? I know there's shopping carts too. Thirty some odd bicycles. Yes. And I know you're going to be seeing some of this stuff late over here. One over here, I have a note from Columbia, I'm going to move past that. There are pallets down here, pallets that are used for shipping materials and merchandise. How many pallets? It looks like they must have been building shacks out of them. How many pallets do you think you had on the premises? I'm going to say probably close to 50. Oh my, those things aren't light either. 50 pallets. You're lugging them down onto your property. Now you've got, I'm guessing, let me just ballpark because I haven't seen the other parts of your property. Those aren't the little pallets either. Those are the like six and eight foot long ones. Yeah. They were 50 to 100 pounds. Yeah, so those longer ones they were using to basically build a bridge across the creek. Oh my gosh. Your property where you guys have your home and anything else, an outbuilding, maybe a shed barn, things like this, carports, whatever. You've got a driveway that goes in and you've got those buildings and your house. And I'm just going to guess that takes up what? Maybe two acres of the nine? Yes. About two acres of the nine. Yeah. So that's how I would have designed it, Pamela. That's why I like that. Very good. Yeah. About two acres. Could you see them from one of your windows? Maybe a bedroom window, a bathroom window? No, we could not see them. You could not see them. Even after the, because you said when the leaves started falling off, did you see them? Right. We could not see them at any point from where our house is located. If you were out on the back deck, the front porch, the side yard picking a flower, could you hear them? No. Okay. No. So they're down there. So they've only got seven acres to work with, but they're far enough away you can't see them. So let's say that really all they have to work with is about two and a half acres. If it's even that, maybe an acre and a half? Of the encampment? Yeah. How much area do you think they took up? It was probably, it wouldn't have been an acre. So less than an acre. It was so compacted down there. And on that acre, they've got over 30 bicycles, over 50 wooden pallets that are in there. They've got things like, did they have any propane tanks down there? We did not find any propane tanks. So if they had a generator, that means they had to have gasoline down there. Yes. We did find, we did find, um, uh, paraphernalia, uh, drugs, stuff. We haven't gotten to that yet. Not as much as, not as much as, well, she was being cautious, so. But we did find, we did find several gas jugs. You did gas, so there was gas containers down there. Were there still gasoline in there? Was there gasoline in there? No, they were empty. Wow. Uh, how many shopping carts did you find? Uh, nine. But the, uh, encampment across the road, we counted 75. Those things are $200 to $300 each, those, those shopping carts are. Do you get a finder's fee for bringing those back to the stores at all? They don't, they don't want them back, do they? Uh, no. Wow. If they, if they. And it was funny because when, after this was all said and done, some of the concern from the concerned citizens of, of the area, um, were concerned about us returning stolen shopping carts back to the businesses. Everything down there was stolen. Everything, yeah. Everything was stolen. There was still, there was price tags on stuff. We even found, we found, we, well, there's. No, I want to hear it now. What else did you find? There was probably 20 or so computer monitors, um, you know, those little. 20 computer monitors. Yeah. Were they like in boxes or were they out? Did they have like. No, they were out of boxes. Did they have PCs like set up down there or something? They didn't have the full, well, they had. They just had monitors. Monitors, yeah. Well, you could probably find some kind of a DVD player. Possibly. And then you could plug that in with your generator and now you get yourself a movie night. Yeah. Over at the property. But this isn't in a building. 20. This is outside. I mean, look at the rain that we just had the night before, right? Did they just junk it all or did they target? That's why a monitor stops working so you go steal another one and then you bring the one. Well, I guess you probably do. Oh my gosh. By the way, the shopping carts, probably Target was probably one of those. Uh, Target was about seven of them. Yeah. Wow. And then PetSmart. There was one Walmart. If they take those shopping carts back and put them back in the shopping cart corral and somebody gets an infection from one of those, anything that happens, it's back on Target's ass. They're like, nope, we have to take the brand new ones, put them in here. If we took it back from that environment and someone got anything, got their foot ran over by a wheel. Yeah. Yeah. They could say it's because it had been so that they don't want it back. Yeah. And they write that thing off and their insurance is covering it or any other business expense. So they don't want it back. And now it's your hassle. Now you don't like all this stuff on your property, especially the people you dealt with. Some of the police. Did you ever reach above the police phone number? Did you ever go talk to the chief of police? Did you ever talk to a city council person? We had a lawyer. You got an attorney. We, we, we had to get a lawyer involved because there was just nothing being done. What did the attorney recommend? Um, he was, he was in the process of dealing with it whenever we, we got the letters. Do you think that getting an attorney and having them look into this helped fuel the city to decide to reach out to you with a letter telling you to clean it up? Possibly. Yeah. Possibly. And you haven't gone there. Your attorney hasn't to find out further about that. Have you filed a lawsuit against the city? No, we have not. Have you thought about it? Yes, I have. Yes, I have. But you're still thinking about it. Yes, I am. Would you like my recommendation? File a lawsuit against the city of Columbia. 100%. This is unacceptable. Right? Well, the first, we've, we got our first, we've gotten a few letters over the years. But our, the, the letter that really started this whole process of actually getting a move, we got in January. Uh huh. And so we had until February to get it cleaned up. Well, there was people still down there. So we can't clean it up until those people are gone. So that letter was kind of ignored. There was, there's eviction notices down there telling them to, you know, evict the premises and they were just ignored. They didn't. Wait a minute. I'm so confused. There was a law in place that said the eviction requires you to leave and they did not listen to that. Tom. Can you believe that? Can you believe the audacity? I'm so confused. Of those individuals. They're in the active process of breaking the law. They've got records of breaking law. So bad that the police officers know about this. But then that piece of paper saying you should leave, that didn't have any effect. I am shocked. I have, Pamela, I have it called up now on our video feed over here. You're currently trespassing on private property, the letter says. Yes. And yada yada, according to city ordinance 16-156 yada yada on here. Please remove all personal belongings before this date, which I don't know that I can still read that. February 12th, 2025. Yes. So that was, that was, um, that was the date that we had to have it cleaned up by. So that was the first notice that they got. And then they received two more notices after that. But I think that's the only picture that I had of. This is a really, really just unbelievable. So the letters that you received from the city telling you to clean it up. How much time did they give you the first time you received the letter? Because I think. The first time they gave us about three weeks. But there was still. Not even a month for something that was going on and on and on. How long do you think from the first time you guys ever called the police till the time you guys received the letter from the city telling you to clean it up? How long was that period of time? Probably a year or two. Wow. A year or two. Yeah. We finally, we finally gave up calling. And then they reach out to you and they give you three weeks to clean the whole thing up. Yeah. That was, that was the first letter. So we got another letter a couple months later that they wanted to meet with us at our property. And the individuals, I, I didn't meet with them, but my husband did. And the individuals that spoke to my husband told us we had four days to get it cleaned up. This was on Tuesday. We had till Saturday to get it cleaned up. Or we, or we are subject to a $15,000 fine. That's the thing we haven't told anybody about that, that fine while they've been called hefty. It is $15,000. Yes. The fine. Yes. You guys cleaned it up. What yourselves? The two of you by hand? Yes. You really did. You had to do all that yourselves. We did all of it ourselves. We're fortunate that we had access to heavy equipment. So we were able to use a heavy equipment to get it cleaned up. But we took six of those real large, those large open top dumpsters out of there. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six roll carts. Is that what they're called? Yes. No, roll carts are the little trash cans. She's talking about a roll off dumpster. A roll off. Which is like the size of the, almost the size of a tractor trailer trailer. Yes. And they're huge. I don't know if you mind telling this. Those things aren't free and the city does not provide those. How much does each one of those cost? That was six of them. You have to pay, you have to pay a delivery fee and then you also have to pay. Right. To pick up at the disposal. To empty it. Because it's based on the weight, right? Yes. Yes. Do you mind sharing how much money that cost you? It was like $65 a ton. So do you remember how much it cost you total? I do not. My husband's got all the money. But I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't 65 bucks. No, it was not. It was hundreds of dollars. Yes. It might be a minimum of 65 per roll off. Yeah. So. But either way, it was not cheap. You did six of those and you guys spent your own time on it. How many, how many hours do you think it took the two of you to get this done? It took, um, it took every bit of those four days. Of the four days. So let's say 48 hours, two people doing it. So 96 person hours to get this thing done, uh, which you could do through the minimum wage. When did that happen by the way? Because I want to know, cause we, our minimum wage went up in January. So it was after, it was after that. So it's approximately, I don't even know what the hell it is, 1280 or something an hour now. I thought it was 13 something. 13 something. So we, we did, um, when we, when we got the roll off, we originally, um, put it all in a pile, um, cause we had originally had, was going to have a dump, dump truck come in and we were going to be able to load the dump truck while it was so wet down there that you couldn't get it in there. So that's when we got the roll offs. So the roll offs, we actually got about a week afterwards, but, um, so we, we had put everything in a huge, huge pile and, um, because we couldn't get the dump truck, that's when we called to have the roll offs and we filled six of them. Well, were they able to get the roll offs back there to where this stuff was going on? Um, not as close as we would have liked it, but yeah. You had to haul that stuff even further. To sit here and think that the city is threatening you with a fine when they're not providing any help at all in taking care of this and to multiply how crappy this is, the city has had property, I'm sure right now does, that they're responsible for. It falls under the heading of being city owned property where we have campers on there and they're not taking care of it. They're allowing it to happen and it's getting trashed up and if they want to take care of it tomorrow or a year from tomorrow, then I guess they'll do it there. Who exactly is threatening the city with fines for not, uh, properly taking care of their property? Well, from what I understand, so we didn't, we didn't quite understand the rush because it had never been a rush before until we later found out that they were being, um, threatened by the DNR. DNR. So that's a federal agency that's threatening the city saying your water is being polluted. The only reason that Pamela had to deal with this though, so the city is trying to enforce a rule of law on a private citizen because they are refusing to impose the rule of law on more private citizens violating the second, the first person's rights. That's exactly right. Like it just absolutely flabbergasted me. That is exactly right. So I'm not exaggerating to say this whole thing, despite the time, the energy and the stress of it, it costs you personally probably several thousand dollars to deal with this. We had to take off work to deal with it. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. So the city is going to say, we want $15,000 of your money because we won't do our job. And then it costs the private citizen thousands of dollars and now, by the way, don't be surprised that $15,000 goes into some big kitty that's helping to feed things like, like building a homeless shelter, homeless shelters and addictions and busing to get more homeless into our area. It is a very, very, very frustrating. All the way through. It's going to be a little bit of housekeeping because I don't want to miss this all the way to the end. We have to take care of that. I also want to call attention to Grace, who is with us from KRCG TV 13. And interestingly, Pamela, KRCG reached out to me and I'm going to go behind the scenes and tell you what this was. They reached out to me with an email and they said, we're doing a story. Can I call it an expose? Is that, is that old fashioned? A series. A series. That's the new term. It's a stay tuned. You don't want to say you're exposing yourself. Yeah, that's true. They're doing a series on homelessness in Columbia. Am I right? And Jefferson City. As I understand it, by the way, Jeff City is sending some of their homeless to Columbia. I'm not pointing fingers. I'm just saying that it's happening. Well, we allow it. Yeah. Yeah, we do. So they're doing the story and they reached out and they said, we've heard that you're a little outspoken when it comes to people that are homeless and issues that are going on. Would you like to talk to us? And Pamela, I said, I will give you one better. Why don't you come out and join us for the podcast on Thursday at Truman's Bar and Grill? Because we're going to be here talking with someone who is, and I didn't say this in the email, screwed over royally by the city of Como when it comes to homeless trashing up their property. So I thank you for being here. These podcasts are available through YouTube first and foremost now. That's where we put the live feed on. No longer on Facebook to originate. From there, the videos and audio carried on Facebook and Instagram and then the audio itself as a podcast in podcast form on podcast platforms such as go ahead, Spotify, Apple plus tune in Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, sorry, get us on the website. I just didn't remember. That's right. And the website is not only the Tom Bradley show.com, but also TBS dot show. Yeah. All taken care of by floating acts, web designs, floating acts comes from a biblical story. Imagine that from you. And I kind of threw out there with the homeless WWJD, man. Yeah. What the what would Jesus do is kind of what I'm saying on that. It drives me nuts when people talk about like, oh, Jesus would have been a socialist. Well, Jesus also told people to follow the laws of the land that they were under. So he said the church should take care of. At no point did he ever say, well, you should rely on the Roman government to take care of you. Like, no, he said you should take care of yourself, take care of other people. But my question is, well, first off, I'd say two things. One, I would absolutely, as Tom said, encourage you to start a lawsuit against the city. I would be, if you send me the link, I'll be one of the first ones to donate money to help pay for the legal fees to go against that. And I know we feel like a silent majority. I really, really do feel like that, that the majority of the people are with you. There are a small, a small group of people that are screaming, but they're a small group. And this is unacceptable because anybody else that has property doesn't want this to happen. And the second thing I'd say, I guarantee you any of the people that we're going to get hate comments on this, on the Facebook feed, on the YouTube stream, the, the, the real Columbia, Missouri website and their, their Facebook page, they get blasted all the time by people. Any of those folks blasting, I would say you post your address. I will personally go to Pamela or anybody else's property, pick up these wonderful individuals that they're so outraged that we're talking about and I will drive them to your house. Oh, that's very kind of you. And I guarantee you there are other followers of this show and other things that would be happy to do the same. We have trucks because we're conservatives and we have trailers and we have the means. We will go help move these people. Any of you that are going to scream at us in these comments and tell us we're wrong and we're ungodly and we're un-American, I don't, I will bring them to your door. I don't really worry about those. I offered that myself and nobody would take me up on it. Again, I'm shocked. I'm shocked. They want to scream at us on social media. They want to say, raise our taxes to pay for it, but they don't want to be the ones to take care of people. One truth that we have here, Pamela, is that we all have a place in our world. I don't care how small or how grand it is. This is my spot. Like, I'm sitting in this chair right now. This is mine. It's not cool if somebody comes up and tries to sit in my lap unless it's Dinah Mite Dove over here. Otherwise, one of my grandkids, but it's not, this is my spot. You own a piece of property. You rent a little condo. You have a hotel room for the night. You're in a table somewhere. You're on a park bench. This is your area, and we have to respect that to whatever degree the law has stepped in and said, this is the deal. And when you own the property or you're renting it for the night, for a year, for 10 years, people aren't allowed to just come into your living room, sit on your sofa, and say, nope, I'm going to stay right here. Same thing goes for the back acre on your nine acres of property. That's the way that it goes. You know, and the sad part about it is, is, is now that we've gotten everything cleaned up, we, we are still finding things that are missing. You mean they were stealing stuff from your home? Oh yeah. When we were, when we were cleaning up, we found our, we found lawnmower, um, that was stolen right up next to our house. You guys are going, where the hell did I put that Briggs and Stratton? And it's like, I don't know where it is. We know they weren't using the lawnmower. What the hell did they take it down there for? I have no idea. No idea. Steal the gas out of it to power the generator, to power the big screen TV. Yeah. And you know, and there's a few times that we noticed, and our gas jugs, you know, for our lawnmowers, you know, that we, we'd keep out by our shed. We found those, we found those down there. We found, we found several items that belong to us. Um, the most disturbing thing was that they were actually coming up next to our house. Yeah. Yeah. Um, you guys are probably out doing something worthwhile, like your job, or possibly at night sleeping. Well, we would lay, we would be in bed at night and we would hear our back water faucets turn on. They were coming up, they were coming up and taking water from our house. Oh my gosh. I don't, I don't even know. I don't know what you do at a time like that. I'm completely honest. Even if you have some protection there, do you reach over and take the protection and walk outside? We had an individual try to break into our house. And no arrest made? Well, he was arrested, but he got, he got arrested for domestic violence. He wasn't even arrested for the thing he broke the law for? He was trying to break into your house and they charged him on that issue, on that incident with domestic violence? Yeah. Yeah. That doesn't make any sense at all. No. I'm super confused. We, we, I mean, I called the cops. We were. Do you have any idea what's happened to that person since? I do not know. Because we have apparently the separate docket for homeless individuals that we go to. They don't go to the same, I guess, courtrooms that we do. It's somehow different. Oh wow. Yeah. That's another thing. Everything's getting just really, really curious around here. It's like a protected status almost. Yes, it is. I mean, like if you're homeless, you get, it's different rules for you. Yeah. I don't get this at all. You know, for the people around mid-Missouri who aren't experiencing this firsthand like Columbia is, we've never had anybody do this on our actual property, but we've had campers really, really close by. All you got to have is some common spaces, a little bit, some green, and I'm not talking money, a little bit of grass, a little bit, some trees, and they will find a spot, especially if they feel like they can come and go from there. There's a trail system nearby. Yes. The homeless love our trail system in Columbia. If there's a road nearby, if there's a bus system and the homeless love riding our buses all day long for no charge at all, and they'll just stay in there in the summertime and stay cool because that's their thing, or in the wintertime to stay warm. I certainly understand their need to try and stay alive when it's zero degrees outside, but that's not what the buses are there for. And so it becomes, it just goes on and on and on. Why do you think, Pamela, that these issues aren't getting any attention at the level of the city government? Why they aren't getting any attention? Because they welcome it. You know, we're supposed to feel sorry for these individuals and, you know, they're down on their luck. I get that. A hundred percent. I could be down on my luck tomorrow, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to live on someone else's property and trash it. You know, you were talking earlier about going on a mission trip to South Dakota. What reservation are you going to? I don't remember the name off the top of my head. I apologize. I know it starts with a Y. I'm sorry. Pine Ridge Reservation, which I've been through and it is a third world country. Oh, by the way, there's no such thing as a third world country anymore. You're not supposed to use that. Oh, OK. Yeah, I'm out there. I'm dating myself, which is OK. I've always loved myself anyway. It's disgusting to see that you're going to put out some time and effort for native people from this land that are held on a reservation, as they like to be referred to, Indians. And you'll be seeing that. And yet here, when we talk about this, people would look at you and say that you're uncaring to say that we shouldn't be allowing this to happen. There is a lot of reality here between the thievery, the drugs, the abuse, the incredible hierarchy that's built between one homeless person to another, the human trafficking that goes on and the incredible drug, gun and any other kind of crime that follows this group around. And it's not simply because they are criminals themselves, but criminals follow people that need that have incredible need and that live in the shadows and rely on black markets. And so that brings in crime. So we're increasing our crime in the area. Absolutely. I'll also mention that we found homemade weapons down there. Yeah, you sent me a picture of one. I'll try to call it up. What exactly is that? Well, it looks like it's a table knife or not a table knife, but like a butcher knife. Oh, OK. Yeah. That you, you know, have in one of those butcher blocks at home. They've broken the handle off of it and they've taped the blade onto a bigger handle. Yes. Like to make a spear kind of something. Yeah. Goodness gracious. Yeah. We found a lot of items like that. It goes on and on, doesn't it? Have you talked to other property owners that have had the same experience and the threat of the fines? I have not. I have not. I hope many of them see this. I have not. We need like a support group or something. We do. I absolutely agree. A group of people. Did you get anything from the city after it was done saying, did they come inspect? Did you notify them to say, we've cleaned it up. Do you guys want to schedule an inspection? Yes, they came and inspected the property. They did? Yeah. When you got the burn permit, did they explain to you what could and could not be burned? Yes. For that? And did you follow that by their instructions? Yes. Yes. We absolutely did. Did they come out there to watch what you were burning at all? No. No. We had periodic visits by one of the fire chiefs. Like during that several days you were working on it? Yeah. Was he hospitable? No. He was very nice. Very nice. Yeah. Yeah. He was very nice. Okay. I would have imagined that. Yeah. I mean, very nice. Very nice to work with. And the officers from the law enforcement who were out there, they were nice as well. They just didn't want to take care of the problems that you had. Yeah. Yeah. The idea of suing the city, you guys haven't done it yet. Right. Is there a date you have in mind that you will make a decision on that? I don't know. It's still kind of, you know, fresh and new. There's a lot of discussion that we need to… Unbelievable. Yeah. I wish, you guys, that there was an end to this discussion now because, well, that wraps it up, Pamela. That's been really wonderful. But there isn't. I will ask you that if you come across more issues with this thing, if the city reaches out in a good way or a bad way, or the homeless are back again or whatever, if you reach out to me, I'd appreciate it. I'll bring along… Hey, by the way, Pamela, who was on with us a week ago or a month ago, is having more issues and here's what's going on. I'd love to keep people aware of that. You know, they're gone for now. But I don't think it's a permanent thing because when they moved from our property, they just moved back across the road. To another person's private property. Yeah. Was it the first one they were at before? Yes, but in a different location. So that's a big area there as well. Do you think that person is aware of that right now? That I do not know. Wow. But I know that they're… We do know that they're still there because we have a lot of tire tracks in our… Next to our road where people pull off. We've seen them going in and out of there. There was a shopping cart down there for a few weeks. So they're not even… They're not even discreet about… Just understand, there are vehicles involved with them somehow. Yes. So they might have a car, but then they build a campsite in your property. From my understanding is people that they know that have transportation will come and bring them food and take them places and drop them off. Oh, that could include those who are charitable in their mind that are going out there and they're dropping off. One of my favorites is they would take coolers full of water and such things and other little drinkies and what have you and put it out for them. And I got to see one of the pictures that the charitable individual posted and shared with everybody. And I'm like, they've got their cooler chained with a lock to a tree. I'm like, wow. You can't even take the cooler out there to give without knowing it's going to be stolen. Right. And I wouldn't be surprised if some of the homeless individuals have some lock cutters that they stole from them. Oh, absolutely. I was thinking about her trying to protect her property. I mean, again, at considerable expense to themselves. If you put up a chain link fence, if you put up anything, nothing is going to stop them. They'll cut right through it. They'll damage that, too. So the only thing that does stop this is law enforcement enforcing the law. That's exactly right. If anybody listens to the discussion and says, well, you guys don't have an answer on how to take care of this. Well, you're sort of right in that I don't have the ultimate universal answer on this. But I do know one thing. The more you allow anyone, especially a set segment of our population, to break the law over and over and over again, right before your eyes, you start telling everyone else there's no need to pay attention to any law. That's the reality. Well, you've seen this in other states where they don't enforce shoplifting laws. So people just walk out with whatever they want. And it's just like, this doesn't work, guys. And it's not like we put our no trespassing signs up after the fact. They have been up for the whole duration that we have lived there. We've got not only the signs, but we also have trees painted purple. So it's not like… Well, maybe they're colorblind. Apparently. Have you guys ever talked about leaving Columbia because of this? I mean, we have and we haven't. It's disheartening to know that the Columbia that we grew up coming to is not the same as the Columbia that we moved to. If you reach out to the city and say, we need help, and they refuse to help when someone's breaking the law and it involves you, it involves you, your safety, your property, health. Let me see if there's anything else that I need in life, me, safety of my family and property. There's a lot going on there and you're allowing someone to break the law involving all three of those things. And I say I need help, but you don't help me. And I live under your guidance, under your leadership, under your umbrella of law enforcement. I'm a little worried. I don't want to leave Columbia. I've heard a lot of people say, I'm ready to leave this place. I hear them. I understand that. I don't want to leave. I want to fix it. Right. That's part of the reason why we chose Columbia because, you know, we have a lot of good memories, you know, when we were growing up coming here. And then, you know, we live here now and it's like, wow, this isn't the same place. I mean, Tom and I've lived here about the same time, mostly because I was born here the time you moved here. But so I've been here 40 plus years because I was born and raised here. We lived on Bodie Drive. We finally moved out of Columbia to Calloway, or I'd say from the People's Republic of Boone County to America. And so we've moved because on my street, Bodie Drive, Greensboro and Currituck, they're three of the most famous streets in Columbia. Every two weeks there was a shooting incident. And in nine years, to my knowledge, there were no arrests ever made. And so then the day that we decided to move, we were in that house for nine years. I came home and there was a bullet that came through finally the front door of my house. And I was finally like, all right. You said that. Yeah. How long ago was that? Let's see. It would have been almost eight years ago, nine years at this point. So we and every other property on that stretch had been shot. Our homeowners association had to start paying Columbia police officers when they were off duty to drive through our neighborhood to try to enforce the rule of law because CPD and I asked CPD. I was like, just park a guy here. I was like, all you have to park here is for a week. I guarantee you're going to see the shooting. Oh, we'll take an inflatable car. Just an inflatable fake car and put that here to try and knock down the crime. And any police officers watching, I do not blame them because of the law enforcement. These guys signed up for this job and gals, forgive me, to deal with some of the worst of the worst, to get shot at, to deal with terrible things. The only reason they're not doing this is because I would imagine they're not being allowed to. The Columbia police officers I know, they're not happy about this either. And so that means there's a rule of law above them that is doing something. And why? That's the reason. I'd love to hear Judge Lutie, the chief of police, address this to the degree that we really understand what they're doing. Not accept it, but understand what they're doing. Would she even open up and talk about it? And I'm so tired of the word salad and the doublespeak and the political speak that I'm not certain that I want to invite Chief Lutie on this show to sit here and say, what's going on? Because I think I'm going to be getting, it's just going to be a run of words. Tell me, why did you let these people stay on this property? It's as easy as that. And then I'll figure out if I agree with you or not. We've only ever heard one explanation that makes sense to me, and that's following the money. So there are places in town, I think you guys, have you covered that there's a church in town that gets $1.5 million a year in order to take care of homeless? Have you ever covered that or talked about that? I don't believe that we have. Okay, so there was a Sunshine request for that, that's been shown and talked about. This is the future of the campus that they're building. Yeah, we've got a campus coming up. There are certain elected officials whose spouses specialize in treatments of drug issues and stuff like that. And anybody that says that we're being unloving or uncaring has a completely wrong view. Because what I see as unloving and uncaring is somebody on somebody else's property dying with a needle in their arm because they have an addiction problem. And that's a legitimate sickness and a legitimate disease. They need help. And you're absolutely right, they need help. The help is not, oh, just let them be. No, in my opinion, that is far, far meaner than trying to take them somewhere where they can force to get help to get off of this stuff. I absolutely agree with you. Absolutely. And Pamela, we're going to thank you for your time because… Thanks for sharing. I'm sorry you had to deal with this. It really is a lot. It's a lot for you to come forward and I greatly appreciate that. And I'm going to bring your mic down, but before I do, is there anything else you'd like to share before I… You know, I would like to share that during this whole process of the cleanup and everything, you know, we received a lot of hate. People driving by yelling at us. And the names that I was called was unreal. Is it not even who I am? It's not like we don't care for these individuals because we did. We were in communication with them, but we were constantly lied to, lied to, lied to over and over. You know, we're just down on our luck. We just need a place to stay for a few weeks. A few weeks became a few months and then a few years. And it's like, okay, we tried to give them the benefit of the doubt that they're just down on their luck. They need a place to stay. One of them told us that that location was close to where they work. They needed to save up enough money on their jobs so that they could get out of there. That was a lie. You know, looking back at it now, the individuals that were there, they don't want the help because the help is going to make them be accountable for themselves. Right. Or trying to fix the addiction to get off of the high. Right. And it's not like all these people who are bringing awareness is haters or bullies or anything like that. We have a significant problem and our city is not doing anything to help these individuals. They need the help. Absolutely. And that is, you know, we're putting the focus on, we're putting the focus on the bad, but the people who are treating, who are getting treated like they're the bad are not the bad. It's the ones who are allowing this, who are allowing more people to come in. If we don't have the means to take care of these people, then don't let any more come here. Now, I understand they're going to say something, they being the they's of the world. You can't just do that. You can't stop somebody from coming to Columbia. And I know you can't. And I mean, honestly, I don't want to stop people from coming into Columbia, but I do believe there are laws being broken. And if we're allowing someone to panhandle in the middle of a busy intersection and there's no law that says you can't, we need to make a law. Anyway, we're going to run. Pamela, thank you so much. I think I think I'm going to bring your mic down. I think it's a lot for her to step up and talk about these things, and it's really a shame that you feel like you can't even step forward in the light of day to explain what's going on. We're going to finish up with keeping your eye on the crap, or as we said, keep your eye on the crapo, sung to the tune of keep your eye on the sparrow, brought to you by Family Focus Eye Care and Retuva Medical Spa, because I've been in the laser treatment, which is right across two lots right over here, Retuva, on my beautiful face, or as Dr. Rich says, the moneymaker. I'm like, well, I'm in radio. Yeah. It's the voice. There you go. I completely understand. But thank you. And Family Focus Eye Care. They've been taking care of my eyes for quite a while now, and I've got my contacts in from them and very soon reading glasses as well. Keeping your eye on the crap, and Grace, this is not for you, just so you know, KOMU has a story yesterday in talking about the wonderful new bridge being built, the pedestrian bridge, South 4th Street. Any idea about that? No, I haven't heard about that. You said South 4th Street? South 4th Street. Yeah. Imagine the pedestrian traffic and what they have to do to get from one place to another in that area. And KOMU, I guess they read this thing right off the press release from the City of Columbia, says now we'll have an easy way to get to food and shopping and fun in the district. I'm like, what are you talking about? There's sidewalks and streets everywhere, that's what it's made of. But if you go to Providence and Broadway, you'll see the Columbia sign that has the big globe, you know, for the O in Columbia and that whole big stainless steel thing that's out there. But it's all by itself. We need a way for that to be connected to Flat Branch Park. That has to be connected together. So we're building a pedestrian bridge to connect it over Flat Branch Creek. Flat Branch Creek is really an interesting piece of nature in the center of Columbia. It's where Columbia was truly founded. They first started up at the top of the hill where there's a water tower now, but there was nothing up there. And somebody said, I am really damn sick and tired of walking down the hill to fetch a pail of water and walk back up the hill every single day. And something tells me it was probably somebody's wife who was washing dishes. I am so tired of this. And the old man was like, I don't know what the problem is. Seems like it's fine to me. So they moved down to the water source and that became the center of where Columbia was built. That water source is Flat Branch Creek. It comes out of the ground right there. And then Columbia, this is really ingenious, they built downtown right on top of it. Years later, they come back and they go, we need to uncover this thing. And they did. They made a park out of it. It's really beautiful. But they're not going to be happy until everything right next to it, including the old ice house, is gone. Which is why, what's the pharmacy? Not Walgreens, but the other big one? Starts with a K. What is it? I'm serious. What's the? Starts with a K. What's the other pharmacy? Is that it, right? Kilgore's. Kilgore's? Is that them? No, no, no. The National Pharmacy. Oh, like a big one. Oh, I have no idea. CVS? CVS? Or Walgreens? No, no, CVS. Walgreens is already there at the corner. CVS wanted to come in where the ice house is and the city of Columbia was not going to approve it. And they just kept throwing every single effort, every effort, and it never came around. And so, and I know what city wants. They want that all to be a green space. And so they continue to work on this. So first it was the park expanding a little bit more. Then it became that corner. Now they're connecting the outer corner across the creek back to Flat Branch Park and we're putting in a pedestrian bridge. And KOMU has the audacity to say, and now you'll be connected so you can get to fun and shopping and restaurants and bars and everything else. It's right there already. What are you talking about? It's a block. Unbelievable. How much is that going to cost, our Columbia taxpayers? It's a couple hundred thousand dollars probably, something like that. And this is the thing, that someday when all is said and done, you'll walk across that bridge and be like, oh, this is a cute little bridge. Yes, it is. And there's a lot of things we could have done with the money and there's a lot of ways we could have handled the property out there, including giving CVS the permit to go ahead and build their new location. Half the city council, if not the whole thing at the time, said, why do we need another drug store right across from Walgreens? We don't need that. Well thank you for judging for us. I appreciate that. Thank you to our leaders for doing that. You've got to keep your eye on the crap. Thank you to Family Focus Eye Care for helping us keep our eye on the crap. We've got to get out of here. Now I'm going to do the final thing, Ellis Bendis. Which by the way, floatingaxe.com. That's a pretty cool name. Thank you. Do you want to real quick just tell us, real quick, 30 seconds, where did you get the name Floating Axe for the name of your company? The Old Testament. There's a really cool little miracle in there where a guy breaks off an axe head, it goes into the water, and the prophet Elijah raises it back up. So a floating axe head. How do you know that Elijah raised that thing back up? Because the Bible says so. It says in the Bible, that's right. Because the Bible says it, it's true. It's the most tested and the most researched book on the planet. I am trying to find if I can get the next media source ready. And I did. This is our out. Nice work. I got the wrong, the right thing this time, but the wrong thing earlier. Any housekeeping you want to mention real quick, where our podcast is available where? Everywhere. 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